British Nationals Abroad: Pensions

Department for Work and Pensions written question – answered on 14th October 2015.

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Photo of Laurence Robertson Laurence Robertson Chair, Northern Ireland Affairs Committee, Chair, Northern Ireland Affairs Committee

To ask the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, if he will take greater steps to help UK nationals access pensions which have been earned abroad.

Photo of Priti Patel Priti Patel Minister of State (Department for Work and Pensions)

The UK already participates in a comprehensive EU-level system of regulations which allows people to claim their state pension from every EEA country they have lived or worked in.

There are further international agreements with countries outside the EEA and taken together with the UK's own bilateral social security agreements, the large majority of people are covered for claims to state pension earned abroad.

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George Morley
Posted on 15 Oct 2015 8:12 pm (Report this annotation)

To repeat Priti Patel's pathetic statements : "The UK already participates in a comprehensive EU-level system of regulations which allows people to claim their state pension from every EEA country they have lived or worked in".
So why should any other individual not be treated equally then ? The EU regulations do not allow discrimination so why does the UK not follow this worldwide as they agreed in the Commonwealth Charter that is ignored along with many others - UN, OECD etc?
"There are further international agreements with countries outside the EEA and taken together with the UK's own bilateral social security agreements, the large majority of people are covered for claims to state pension earned abroad."
This statement is totally wrong because the DWP themselves admitted in an FOI that no agreement is necessary for the indexation of a pension abroad but continue to deny the pensioners their rightful pension uprating.

Andy Robertson-Fox
Posted on 15 Oct 2015 9:06 pm (Report this annotation)

The fact that UK pensioners living in the EEA are paid index linked pensions because of the European Convention on Human Rights demands it and others living in a seemingly random selection of countries like USA, Philippines and Macedonia have unecessary bilateral agreements is no justification for freezing pensions and not index linking in other overseas countries.

Does the minister not understand that these are merely the tools to implement the pension policy and in so doing thereby exclude 47% of pensioners living abroad from receiving the annual uplift and in no way can such regulations and agreements be considered as justification for the discrimination they impose?

George Morley
Posted on 16 Oct 2015 1:04 am (Report this annotation)

I have to come back on the issue when Priti Patel said "the large majority of people are covered for claims to state pension earned abroad." She does not make herself clear because all pensioners abroad get the state pension but some are denied the indexation. So the truth is that 96% of pensioners worldwide get the state pension indexed while approx 4% (560,000) are frozen and get the value of pension (dependent on their contributions) on reaching retirement for the rest of their life with no increases ever. So why does she accept this discrimination of a small minority as a relevant answer ?