Decision Time

– in the Scottish Parliament at 2:25 pm on 25 September 2025.

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Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 2:25, 25 September 2025

There are four questions to be put as a result of today’s business. The first question is, that motion S6M-19027, in the name of Ben Macpherson, on the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members::

No.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

There will be a Division.

There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.

Meeting suspended.

On resuming—

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

We move to the vote on Amendment S6M-19027, in the name of Ben Macpherson. Members should cast their votes now.

The vote is closed.

Photo of Gillian Martin Gillian Martin Scottish National Party

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to log in; I would have voted yes.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Ms Martin. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Photo of Finlay Carson Finlay Carson Conservative

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to vote; I would have voted no.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Mr Carson. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Photo of Willie Rennie Willie Rennie Liberal Democrat

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I am ashamed to say that I have done it again—I forgot to vote on behalf of Beatrice Wishart. She would have voted no.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Mr Rennie. We will ensure that Ms Wishart’s vote is recorded.

Division number 1 Decision Time

Aye: 62 MSPs

No: 39 MSPs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Abstained: 2 MSPs

Abstained: A-Z by last name

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 5:04, 25 September 2025

The result of the Division on motion S6M-19027, in the name of Ben Macpherson, on the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill, is: For 62, Against 39, Abstentions 2.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament agrees to the general principles of the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

The next question is, that motion S6M-18687, in the name of Shona Robison, on a financial resolution for the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members::

No.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

There will be a Division.

The vote is closed.

Photo of Willie Rennie Willie Rennie Liberal Democrat

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I have a different excuse this time. My app would not connect at all. Beatrice Wishart and I would both have voted no.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Mr Rennie. We will ensure that both votes are recorded.

Photo of Daniel Johnson Daniel Johnson Labour

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I would have voted no.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Mr Johnson. Likewise, we will ensure that your vote is recorded.

Division number 2 Decision Time

Aye: 63 MSPs

No: 18 MSPs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Abstained: 23 MSPs

Abstained: A-Z by last name

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 5:04, 25 September 2025

The result of the Division on motion S6M-18687, in the name of Shona Robison, on a financial resolution for the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill, is: For 63, Against 18, Abstentions 23.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament, for the purposes of any Act of the Scottish Parliament resulting from the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill, agrees to any expenditure of a kind referred to in Rule 9.12.3A of the Parliament’s Standing Orders arising in consequence of the Act.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

The next question is, that motion S6M-19067, in the name of Shona Robison, on a financial resolution for the Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament, for the purposes of any Act of the Scottish Parliament resulting from the Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill, agrees to any increase in expenditure payable out of the Scottish Consolidated Fund in consequence of the Act.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

The final question is, that motion S6M-19035, in the name of Shona Robison, on the appointment of commissioners to the Scottish Fiscal Commission, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament agrees with the recommendation of the Scottish Government and the Finance and Public Administration Committee that Dr Eleanor Ryan and Justine Riccomini be appointed to the Scottish Fiscal Commission.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

That concludes decision time.

division

The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.

amendment

As a bill passes through Parliament, MPs and peers may suggest amendments - or changes - which they believe will improve the quality of the legislation.

Many hundreds of amendments are proposed by members to major bills as they pass through committee stage, report stage and third reading in both Houses of Parliament.

In the end only a handful of amendments will be incorporated into any bill.

The Speaker - or the chairman in the case of standing committees - has the power to select which amendments should be debated.

Division

The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.