Decision Time

– in the Scottish Parliament at 4:50 pm on 13 June 2024.

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Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 4:50, 13 June 2024

There are three questions to be put as a result of today’s business. The first question is, that Amendment S6M-13602.1, in the name of Liz Smith, which seeks to amend motion S6M-13602, in the name of Shona Robison, on Scottish Government priorities—investing in Scotland’s public services, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members::

No.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

There will be a Division.

There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.

Meeting suspended.

On resuming—

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

We move to the vote on Amendment S6M-13602.1, in the name of Liz Smith. Members should cast their votes now.

The vote is closed.

Photo of Jamie Hepburn Jamie Hepburn Scottish National Party

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I am afraid that I could not get connected. I would have voted no.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Mr Hepburn. We will ensure that your vote is recorded.

Division number 1 Decision Time

Aye: 24 MSPs

No: 81 MSPs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 5:03, 13 June 2024

The result of the Division on Amendment S6M-13602.1, in the name of Liz Smith, is: For 24, Against 81, Abstentions 0.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

The next question is, that Amendment S6M-13602.2, in the name of Mark Griffin, which seeks to amend motion S6M-13602, in the name of Shona Robison, on Scottish Government priorities—investing in Scotland’s public services, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members::

No.

Division number 2 Decision Time

Aye: 45 MSPs

No: 61 MSPs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 5:03, 13 June 2024

The result of the Division on Amendment S6M-13602.2, in the name of Mark Griffin, is: For 45, Against 61, Abstentions 0.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

The final question is, that motion S6M-13602, in the name of Shona Robison, on Scottish Government priorities—investing in Scotland’s public services, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members::

No.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

There will be a Division.

The vote is closed.

Photo of Clare Haughey Clare Haughey Scottish National Party

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect to the digital voting platform. I would have voted yes.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Ms Haughey. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Photo of Pam Gosal Pam Gosal Conservative

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect. I would have voted no.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Ms Gosal. We will ensure that your vote is recorded.

Division number 3 Decision Time

Aye: 61 MSPs

No: 46 MSPs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 5:03, 13 June 2024

The result of the Division on motion S6M-13602, in the name of Shona Robison, on Scottish Government priorities—investing in Scotland’s public services, is: For 61, Against 46, Abstentions 0.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament welcomes the Scottish Government’s continued investment in public services and shares its commitment to maintaining high-quality services that people in Scotland need; recognises the key role that the workforce plays in delivering public services and welcomes that public sector pay is higher in Scotland than other parts of the UK; acknowledges the importance of a socially just and progressive approach to public service design and delivery, underpinned by fair work and a progressive tax policy; agrees that the UK Spring Budget fell far short of what Scotland needs to deliver further investment in public services and infrastructure, and will result in a cut in the Scottish core block grant of around £0.4 billion in real terms in 2024-25 compared with 2022-23; is concerned that significant, real-terms spending cuts, assessed by the Institute for Fiscal Studies as being up to £20 billion by 2028 across the UK, will be needed as a result of the economic plans of either a Labour or Conservative UK administration; calls on the incoming UK administration to bring forward an emergency budget to restore the £1.3 billion cut in Scotland’s capital budget, and notes that, for as long as the Scottish Government remains on a fixed budget under the current devolution settlement, there are limits to what it can achieve in terms of investment in public services.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

That concludes decision time.

Meeting closed at 17:10.

amendment

As a bill passes through Parliament, MPs and peers may suggest amendments - or changes - which they believe will improve the quality of the legislation.

Many hundreds of amendments are proposed by members to major bills as they pass through committee stage, report stage and third reading in both Houses of Parliament.

In the end only a handful of amendments will be incorporated into any bill.

The Speaker - or the chairman in the case of standing committees - has the power to select which amendments should be debated.

division

The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.

Division

The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.