Decision Time

– in the Scottish Parliament at 4:54 pm on 1 May 2024.

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Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 4:54, 1 May 2024

There are four questions to be put as a result of today’s business. The first question is, that amendment S6M-13041.2, in the name of Douglas Ross, which seeks to amend motion S6M-13041, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on Women Against State Pension Inequality, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members::

No.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

There will be a division. Given that members have already voted today, I would be grateful if they refreshed their screens before we move to the vote.

We move to the vote on amendment S6M-13041.2, in the name of Douglas Ross, which seeks to amend motion S6M-13041, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on Women Against State Pension Inequality. Members should cast their votes now.

The vote is closed.

Photo of Christine Grahame Christine Grahame Scottish National Party

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My gadget would not connect. I would have voted no.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Ms Grahame. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Division number 2 Decision Time

Aye: 31 MSPs

No: 74 MSPs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Abstained: 21 MSPs

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 4:54, 1 May 2024

The result of the division is: For 31, Against 74, Abstentions 21.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

The next question is, that amendment S6M-13041.1, in the name of Paul O’Kane, which seeks to amend motion S6M-13041, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on Women Against State Pension Inequality, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members::

No.

Division number 3 Decision Time

Aye: 21 MSPs

No: 95 MSPs

No: A-Z by last name

Abstained: 11 MSPs

Abstained: A-Z by last name

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 4:54, 1 May 2024

The result of the division is: For 21, Against 95, Abstentions 11.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

The next question is, that motion S6M-13041, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on Women Against State Pension Inequality, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members::

No.

Division number 4 Decision Time

Aye: 75 MSPs

Abstained: 52 MSPs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Abstained: A-Z by last name

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green 4:54, 1 May 2024

The result of the division on motion S6M-13041, in the name of Humza Yousaf, is: For 75, Against 0, Abstentions 52.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament welcomes the report from the Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman into the pension injustices on women born in the 1950s; agrees that the UK Government must now urgently deliver on the ombudsman’s recommendations to pay compensation in full to those women without delay; echoes the Women Against State Pension Inequality (WASPI) campaign’s calls for a higher level of compensation to properly reflect the financial harm; notes the report’s conclusions on the UK Government’s failings of communication and maladministration; congratulates the WASPI women on this milestone in their campaign, and highlights cross-party commitments to delivering justice for them all.

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

The next question is, that motion S6M-13045, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on parliamentary recess dates, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament agrees the following parliamentary recess dates under Rule 2.3.1: 8 to 16 February 2025 (inclusive), 5 to 20 April 2025 (inclusive), 28 June to 31 August 2025 (inclusive), 11 to 26 October 2025 (inclusive), 20 December 2025 to 4 January 2026 (inclusive).

Photo of Ross Greer Ross Greer Green

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I seek clarification on an email circulated from the chief executive’s office to all members of the Scottish Parliament in relation to the protest camp that is currently taking place outside the Parliament building.

I understand entirely that, if an MSP or a member of staff were to take part in camping outside the building, we or they would, indeed, have breached the policy. However, I have been contacted by a number of staff and by other MSPs because there is some ambiguity about the message that has been sent to us, and some have been left under the impression that any engagement at all with those taking part in the protest, such as simply speaking to them on the way in or out of this building, would also be in breach of that policy. Can the Presiding Officer offer reassurance to MSPs and staff that simply by speaking to those who are protesting outside we would not have breached the Parliament’s protest policy?

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

Thank you, Mr Greer. As you will be aware, that is not a question about whether proper procedures are or have been followed in the chamber.

The code of conduct for MSPs states that

“Members must abide by the policies that are adopted by the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body”.

One of those policies, the protest policy, includes the restriction that protesters should not camp

“at any time, including overnight, for protest or any other reason”.

It has been made clear to the current protesters that, although we support the right to protest at Holyrood, they do not have permission to camp on the Parliament’s grounds and they are not in compliance with the corporate body’s protest policy. It is expected that members would withdraw from any protest that breaches the terms and conditions that are set out in the Parliament’s policy.

That concludes decision time.