Business Motion

– in the Scottish Parliament on 24th May 2022.

Alert me about debates like this

Photo of Alison Johnstone Alison Johnstone Green

The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-04607, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out changes to the business programme.

Motion moved,

That the Parliament agrees to the following revisions to the programme of business for Thursday 26 May 2022— delete

2.30 pm Parliamentary Bureau Motions

2.30 pm Portfolio Questions:

Constitution, External Affairs and Culture and insert

2.00 pm Parliamentary Bureau Motions

2.00 pm Portfolio Questions:

Constitution, External Affairs and Culture followed by

Ministerial Statement: Accountability for Delivering the National Mission to Reduce Drug Deaths and Improve Lives—[

George Adam

]

The Presiding Officer:

I call Stephen Kerr to speak to and move amendment S6M-04607.1.

Photo of Stephen Kerr Stephen Kerr Conservative

Last week, I outlined the reasons why we need the Deputy First Minister to face the consequences of his actions by appearing in the chamber to make a statement and answer questions. The reasons that I gave last week have not changed. Indeed, the Minister for Parliamentary Business has still not been able to explain why he is against the Scottish Government being scrutinised in this way in this instance.

My amendment once again seeks to insert a statement from the Deputy First Minister, which would allow him to clear the air—to outline his role in the ferry contract approval process, instead of hiding from parliamentarians and giving selected quotes to the media. The Parliament is the first line of scrutiny of the Government, not the last.

Yesterday, we saw that the level of control that the Scottish National Party whips exercise over their loyal subjects is quite formidable and I understand that the SNP, including Mr Swinney, will be whipped to oppose the amendment. However, I would—

Photo of John Swinney John Swinney Scottish National Party

I will oppose it of my own free will.

Photo of Stephen Kerr Stephen Kerr Conservative

I am sure that the Deputy First Minister is right: of his own free will, he chooses not to respect the Parliament by coming here to make a statement and subjecting himself to the scrutiny of parliamentarians who are elected to do that job in this place.

I invite any Scottish Green MSP to intervene right now and explain to members in the chamber why they do not support the Deputy First Minister outlining his role in the ferries disaster to Parliament rather than to the media. What a surprise—no one is willing to defend their voting position. That is shameful.

To be clear, we will support the final motion regardless, because we support the inclusion of a statement on reducing drug deaths. However, I implore all members of the Scottish Parliament who consider themselves to be parliamentarians to support my amendment so that we can finally get some answers from the Deputy First Minister on the growing scandal of the ferry fiasco.

I move amendment S6M-04607.1, after

“and insert—

2.00 pm Parliamentary Bureau Motions

2.00 pm Portfolio Questions:

Constitution, External Affairs and Culture” to insert

“ followed by

Deputy First Minister’s Statement: Ferries Contract Approval”.

Photo of George Adam George Adam Scottish National Party

We have discussed this matter a number of times recently. On this occasion, I refer Mr Kerr and other members in the chamber to my intervention during the discussion that we had on the matter on 18 May. I ask them to look at the

Official Report of that meeting, and to see my answers there.

The Presiding Officer:

The question is, that amendment S6M-04607.1, in the name of Stephen Kerr, which seeks to amend motion S6M-04607, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on changes to the business programme, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

The Presiding Officer:

There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.

17:07 Meeting suspended.

17:11 On resuming—

The question is, that amendment S6M-04607.1 be agreed to. Members should cast their votes now.

The vote is now closed.

Photo of Keith Brown Keith Brown Scottish National Party

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I was unable to access the app. I would have voted no.

The Presiding Officer:

Thank you, Mr Brown. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Division number 1 Business Motion

Aye: 53 MSPs

No: 68 MSPs

Ayes: A-Z by last name

Nos: A-Z by last name

The Presiding Officer:

The result of the division on amendment S6M-04607.1, in the name of Stephen Kerr, is: For 53, Against 68, Abstentions 0.

Amendment disagreed to.

The next question is, that motion S6M-04607, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on changes to the business programme, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

The Presiding Officer:

There will be a division.

The vote is now closed.

Photo of Sharon Dowey Sharon Dowey Conservative

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I would have voted yes.

The Presiding Officer:

Thank you, Ms Dowey. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Photo of Sue Webber Sue Webber Conservative

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app was not working. I would have voted yes.

The Presiding Officer:

Thank you, Ms Webber. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Photo of Daniel Johnson Daniel Johnson Labour

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. The app did not work. I would have voted no.

The Presiding Officer:

Thank you, Mr Johnson. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Photo of Keith Brown Keith Brown Scottish National Party

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I would have voted yes on this occasion.

The Presiding Officer:

Thank you, Mr Brown. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Photo of Rachael Hamilton Rachael Hamilton Conservative

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I would have voted yes.

The Presiding Officer:

Thank you, Ms Hamilton. We will ensure that that is recorded.

Division number 2 Business Motion

Aye: 96 MSPs

No: 24 MSPs

Ayes: A-Z by last name

Nos: A-Z by last name

The Presiding Officer:

The result of the division on motion S6M-04607, in the name of George Adam, is: For 96, Against 24, Abstentions 0.

Motion agreed to,

That the Parliament agrees to the following revisions to the programme of business for Thursday 26 May 2022— delete

2.30 pm Parliamentary Bureau Motions

2.30 pm Portfolio Questions:

Constitution, External Affairs and Culture and insert

2.00 pm Parliamentary Bureau Motions

2.00 pm Portfolio Questions:

Constitution, External Affairs and Culture followed by

Ministerial Statement: Accountability for Delivering the National Mission to Reduce Drug Deaths and Improve Lives