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– in the Scottish Parliament at 2:56 pm on 22nd December 2005.

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Photo of George Reid George Reid None 2:56 pm, 22nd December 2005

There are potentially seven questions to be put as a result of today's business. In relation to this morning's debate on blood products, if the amendment in the name of Lewis Macdonald is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Nanette Milne will fall. In relation to this morning's debate on "torture flights" on Scottish soil, if the amendment in the name of Scott Barrie is agreed to, amendments in the name of Phil Gallie and Jim Wallace will fall. If the amendment in the name of Phil Gallie is agreed to, the amendment in the name of Jim Wallace will fall.

The first question is, that amendment S2M-3767.2, in the name of Lewis Macdonald, which seeks to amend motion S2M-3767, in the name of Carolyn Leckie, on blood products, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 1

For: Aitken, Bill, Arbuckle, Mr Andrew, Baillie, Jackie, Baker, Richard, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Brown, Robert, Brownlee, Derek, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Fraser, Murdo, Gillon, Karen, Glen, Marlyn, Godman, Trish, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Gordon, Mr Charlie, Gorrie, Donald, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Johnstone, Alex, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Maclean, Kate, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Milne, Mrs Nanette, Mitchell, Margaret, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Tosh, Murray, Wallace, Mr Jim, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Byrne, Ms Rosemary, Canavan, Dennis, Crawford, Bruce, Curran, Frances, Fox, Colin, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Kane, Rosie, Leckie, Carolyn, Martin, Campbell, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scott, Eleanor, Sheridan, Tommy
Abstentions: Adam, Brian, Cunningham, Roseanna, Fabiani, Linda, Gibson, Rob, Grahame, Christine, Hyslop, Fiona, Lochhead, Richard, Marwick, Tricia, Mather, Jim, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, McFee, Mr Bruce, Morgan, Alasdair, Robison, Shona, Stevenson, Stewart, Sturgeon, Nicola, Swinburne, John, Swinney, Mr John, Turner, Dr Jean, Welsh, Mr Andrew, White, Ms Sandra

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 76, Against 16, Abstentions 21.

Amendment agreed to.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The amendment in the name of Nanette Milne therefore falls, which takes us to the next question, which is, that motion S2M-3767, in the name of Carolyn Leckie, on blood products, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 2

For: Aitken, Bill, Arbuckle, Mr Andrew, Baillie, Jackie, Baker, Richard, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Brown, Robert, Brownlee, Derek, Butler, Bill, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Fraser, Murdo, Gillon, Karen, Glen, Marlyn, Godman, Trish, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Gordon, Mr Charlie, Gorrie, Donald, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Johnstone, Alex, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Maclean, Kate, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Milne, Mrs Nanette, Mitchell, Margaret, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Tosh, Murray, Wallace, Mr Jim, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Byrne, Ms Rosemary, Curran, Frances, Fox, Colin, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Kane, Rosie, Leckie, Carolyn, Martin, Campbell, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scott, Eleanor, Sheridan, Tommy
Abstentions: Adam, Brian, Crawford, Bruce, Cunningham, Roseanna, Fabiani, Linda, Gibson, Rob, Grahame, Christine, Hyslop, Fiona, Lochhead, Richard, Marwick, Tricia, Mather, Jim, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, McFee, Mr Bruce, Morgan, Alasdair, Robison, Shona, Stevenson, Stewart, Sturgeon, Nicola, Swinburne, John, Swinney, Mr John, Turner, Dr Jean, Welsh, Mr Andrew, White, Ms Sandra

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 77, Against 14, Abstentions 22.

Motion, as amended, agreed to.

Resolved,

That the Parliament expresses its profound sympathy for those patients who have been infected with Hepatitis C through NHS treatment with blood or blood products; welcomes the payments which are being made by the Scottish Executive to help with the suffering and hardship involved; notes that there have been significant improvements in knowledge and in the safety of blood products since these events took place; believes that there is now more information in the public domain and that the debate has moved on, and believes that the focus should now be on practical action which would benefit the future delivery of services or patient care.

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The third question is, that amendment S2M-3766.4, in the name of Scott Barrie, which seeks to amend motion S2M-3766, in the name of Frances Curran, on "torture flights" on Scottish soil, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 3

For: Baillie, Jackie, Baker, Richard, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Gillon, Karen, Glen, Marlyn, Godman, Trish, Gordon, Mr Charlie, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Maclean, Kate, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Smith, Elaine, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Adam, Brian, Arbuckle, Mr Andrew, Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Brown, Robert, Byrne, Ms Rosemary, Canavan, Dennis, Crawford, Bruce, Cunningham, Roseanna, Curran, Frances, Fabiani, Linda, Finnie, Ross, Fox, Colin, Gibson, Rob, Gorrie, Donald, Grahame, Christine, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Hyslop, Fiona, Kane, Rosie, Leckie, Carolyn, Lochhead, Richard, Lyon, George, Martin, Campbell, Marwick, Tricia, Mather, Jim, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, McFee, Mr Bruce, Morgan, Alasdair, Munro, John Farquhar, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robison, Shona, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scott, Eleanor, Scott, Tavish, Sheridan, Tommy, Smith, Iain, Smith, Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stevenson, Stewart, Stone, Mr Jamie, Sturgeon, Nicola, Swinburne, John, Swinney, Mr John, Wallace, Mr Jim, Welsh, Mr Andrew, White, Ms Sandra
Abstentions: Aitken, Bill, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Brownlee, Derek, Fraser, Murdo, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Johnstone, Alex, Milne, Mrs Nanette, Mitchell, Margaret, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Tosh, Murray, Turner, Dr Jean

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 47, Against 53, Abstentions 12.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The next question is, that amendment S2M-3766.1, in the name of Phil Gallie, which seeks to amend motion S2M-3766, in the name of Frances Curran, on "torture flights" on Scottish soil, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 4

For: Aitken, Bill, Baillie, Jackie, Baker, Richard, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Brownlee, Derek, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Fraser, Murdo, Gillon, Karen, Glen, Marlyn, Godman, Trish, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Gordon, Mr Charlie, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Johnstone, Alex, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Maclean, Kate, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Milne, Mrs Nanette, Mitchell, Margaret, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Smith, Elaine, Tosh, Murray, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Arbuckle, Mr Andrew, Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Brown, Robert, Byrne, Ms Rosemary, Canavan, Dennis, Curran, Frances, Finnie, Ross, Fox, Colin, Gorrie, Donald, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Kane, Rosie, Leckie, Carolyn, Lyon, George, Martin, Campbell, Munro, John Farquhar, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scott, Eleanor, Scott, Tavish, Sheridan, Tommy, Smith, Iain, Smith, Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Swinburne, John, Wallace, Mr Jim
Abstentions: Adam, Brian, Crawford, Bruce, Cunningham, Roseanna, Fabiani, Linda, Gibson, Rob, Grahame, Christine, Hyslop, Fiona, Lochhead, Richard, Marwick, Tricia, Mather, Jim, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, McFee, Mr Bruce, Morgan, Alasdair, Robison, Shona, Stevenson, Stewart, Sturgeon, Nicola, Swinney, Mr John, Turner, Dr Jean, Welsh, Mr Andrew, White, Ms Sandra

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 59, Against 33, Abstentions 21.

Amendment agreed to.

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The amendment in the name of Jim Wallace therefore falls, so the final question is, that motion S2M-3766, in the name of Frances Curran, on "torture flights" on Scottish soil, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 5

For: Aitken, Bill, Baillie, Jackie, Baker, Richard, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Brownlee, Derek, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Fraser, Murdo, Gillon, Karen, Glen, Marlyn, Godman, Trish, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Gordon, Mr Charlie, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Johnstone, Alex, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Maclean, Kate, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Milne, Mrs Nanette, Mitchell, Margaret, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Smith, Elaine, Tosh, Murray, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Arbuckle, Mr Andrew, Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Brown, Robert, Byrne, Ms Rosemary, Canavan, Dennis, Curran, Frances, Finnie, Ross, Fox, Colin, Gorrie, Donald, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Kane, Rosie, Leckie, Carolyn, Lyon, George, Martin, Campbell, Munro, John Farquhar, Pringle, Mike, Radcliffe, Nora, Rumbles, Mike, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scott, Eleanor, Sheridan, Tommy, Smith, Iain, Turner, Dr Jean
Abstentions: Adam, Brian, Crawford, Bruce, Cunningham, Roseanna, Fabiani, Linda, Gibson, Rob, Grahame, Christine, Hyslop, Fiona, Lochhead, Richard, Marwick, Tricia, Mather, Jim, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, McFee, Mr Bruce, Morgan, Alasdair, Purvis, Jeremy, Robison, Shona, Robson, Euan, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stevenson, Stewart, Stone, Mr Jamie, Sturgeon, Nicola, Swinburne, John, Swinney, Mr John, Wallace, Mr Jim, Welsh, Mr Andrew, White, Ms Sandra

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 59, Against 26, Abstentions 28.

Motion, as amended, agreed to.

Resolved,

That the Parliament supports the UN Convention Against Torture, of which the United Kingdom is a signatory; believes that there is never any justification for torture; welcomes the judgement by the Law Lords that evidence obtained under torture was inadmissible in court and was also inadmissible in a Special Immigration Appeals Commission case; notes the allegations in the press that CIA rendition flights have refuelled in Scotland; trusts that the Foreign Secretary's assurances that such flights have not landed in Scotland are true, and calls for the Scottish Executive to detail what communications it has had with the Foreign Office over this matter.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

That concludes decision time. I wish you all a happy Christmas and a good new year.

Meeting closed at 15:03.