– in the Scottish Parliament at 6:03 pm on 30 June 2005.
George Reid
None
6:03,
30 June 2005
There are four questions to be put as a result of today's business. The first question is, that motion S2M-3031, in the name of Des McNulty, on the Finance Committee's second report of 2005, entitled "Cross-cutting Expenditure Review of Economic Development", be agreed to.
Motion agreed to.
That the Parliament notes the recommendations contained in the Finance Committee's 2nd Report, 2005 (Session 2): Cross-cutting Expenditure Review of Economic Development (SP Paper 312).
George Reid
None
The second question is, that motion S2M-2985, in the name of Andy Kerr, that the Smoking, Health and Social Care (Scotland) Bill be passed, be agreed to. Are we agreed?
George Reid
None
There will be a Division.
Division number 11
For: Adam, Brian, Alexander, Ms Wendy, Arbuckle, Mr Andrew, Baillie, Jackie, Baird, Shiona, Baker, Richard, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Butler, Bill, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Crawford, Bruce, Cunningham, Roseanna, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ewing, Fergus, Ewing, Mrs Margaret, Fabiani, Linda, Ferguson, Patricia, Fergusson, Alex, Finnie, Ross, Gibson, Rob, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Grahame, Christine, Harvie, Patrick, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, John, Hughes, Janis, Hyslop, Fiona, Ingram, Mr Adam, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lochhead, Richard, Lyon, George, MacAskill, Mr Kenny, Macdonald, Lewis, MacDonald, Margo, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Maclean, Kate, Martin, Paul, Marwick, Tricia, Mather, Jim, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McFee, Mr Bruce, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morgan, Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Murray, Dr Elaine, Neil, Alex, Oldfather, Irene, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robison, Shona, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scott, Eleanor, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Iain, Smith, Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stevenson, Stewart, Stone, Mr Jamie, Sturgeon, Nicola, Swinburne, John, Swinney, Mr John, Turner, Dr Jean, Wallace, Mr Jim, Watson, Mike, Welsh, Mr Andrew, White, Ms Sandra, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Aitken, Bill, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Brownlee, Derek, Davidson, Mr David, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Johnstone, Alex, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McLetchie, David, Milne, Mrs Nanette, Mitchell, Margaret, Monteith, Mr Brian, Munro, John Farquhar, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John
Abstentions: Tosh, Murray
George Reid
None
The result of the Division is: For 97, Against 17, Abstentions 1.
Motion agreed to.
That the Parliament agrees that the Smoking, Health and Social Care (Scotland) Bill be passed.
George Reid
None
I propose to put a single question on motions S2M-3048 to S2M-3057 and S2M-3064 to S2M-3067 inclusive. The question is, that motions S2M-3048 to S2M-3057 and S2M-3064 to S2M-3067, in the name of Margaret Curran, on the membership of and substitution on committees, be agreed to.
Motions agreed to.
That the Parliament agrees that Mr Kenneth Macintosh be appointed to replace Christine May on the Subordinate Legislation Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Christine May be appointed to the Standards and Public Appointments Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Karen Gillon be appointed to replace Mr Alasdair Morrison on the European and External Relations Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Elaine Smith be appointed to replace Karen Gillon on the Environment and Rural Development Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Dr Elaine Murray be appointed to replace Bill Butler as substitute member on the Local Government and Transport Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Mr Kenneth Macintosh be appointed to replace Paul Martin as substitute member on the Health Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Trish Godman be appointed to replace Janis Hughes as substitute member on the Environment and Rural Development Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Karen Gillon be appointed to replace Helen Eadie as substitute member on the Justice 1 Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Janis Hughes be appointed to replace Gordon Jackson as substitute member on the Finance Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Paul Martin be appointed to replace Marilyn Livingstone as substitute member on the Standards and Public Appointments Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Mr Jim Wallace be appointed to replace Iain Smith on the European and External Relations Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Euan Robson be appointed to replace Margaret Smith on the Local Government and Transport Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Margaret Smith be appointed to replace George Lyon on the Audit Committee.
That the Parliament agrees that Iain Smith be appointed to replace Robert Brown on the Education Committee.
George Reid
None
The fourth and final question is, that motion S2M-3078, in the name of Brian Adam, on behalf of the Standards and Public Appointments Committee, be agreed to.
Motion agreed to.
That the Parliament agrees that Colin Fox MSP, Frances Curran MSP, Rosie Kane MSP and Carolyn Leckie MSP be excluded from all proceedings of the Parliament for the month of September 2005 and that their right of access to the Parliamentary complex, their right of access to Parliamentary facilities and services and their salaries and allowances be withdrawn for that period.
George Reid
None
That concludes decision time. I wish you all a good break.
Roseanna Cunningham
Scottish National Party
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Further to today's events in the chamber, I wonder whether it is in order for the chamber to congratulate Perth and Kinross Council and Tayside police, which have, pending ratification, agreed with G8 Alternatives and the Stop the War Coalition a march in Auchterarder that will be as close to Gleneagles Hotel as is reasonably possible. Does that not prove that hard work, talk and compromise are significantly more effective than childish outbursts such as the display that we saw today? [ Applause. ]
The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.
The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.