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Photo of George Reid George Reid None 5:00 pm, 25th September 2003

There are 10 questions to be put as a result of today's business. The first question is, that amendment S2M-381.3, in the name of Tavish Scott, which seeks to amend motion S2M-381, in the name of Phil Gallie, on the European constitution, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 1

For: Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Turner, Dr Jean, Wallace, Mr Jim, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Aitken, Bill, Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Canavan, Dennis, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fox, Colin, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Johnstone, Alex, Leckie, Carolyn, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McLetchie, David, Mitchell, Margaret, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, Eleanor, Scott, John, Swinburne, John, Tosh, Murray
Abstentions: Cunningham, Roseanna, Ewing, Mrs Margaret, Fabiani, Linda, Gibson, Mr Rob, Ingram, Mr Adam, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, Neil, Alex

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 59, Against 27, Abstentions 8.

Amendment agreed to.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

Amendment S2M-381.1, in the name of Stewart Stevenson, is pre-empted.

The next question is, that motion S2M-381, in the name of Phil Gallie, on the European constitution, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 2

For: Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Turner, Dr Jean, Wallace, Mr Jim, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Aitken, Bill, Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fox, Colin, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Johnstone, Alex, Leckie, Carolyn, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McLetchie, David, Mitchell, Margaret, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, Eleanor, Scott, John, Swinburne, John, Tosh, Murray
Abstentions: Canavan, Dennis, Cunningham, Roseanna, Ewing, Mrs Margaret, Fabiani, Linda, Gibson, Mr Rob, Ingram, Mr Adam, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, Neil, Alex

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 60, Against 26, Abstentions 9.

Motion, as amended, agreed to.

[Resolved,]

That the Parliament recognises the many benefits that the European Union has delivered for Europe and Scotland; welcomes the draft constitutional treaty presented to the European Council by the Convention on the Future of Europe as an important step towards making the EU more effective, efficient, easier to understand, democratic, transparent and accountable; welcomes the reference in the draft treaty to subsidiarity and to the role of devolved parliaments in nations and regions, and welcomes the role that the Scottish Executive, in conjunction with Her Majesty's Government, has had in securing these references.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The next question is, that amendment S2M-380.3, in the name of Hugh Henry, which seeks to amend motion S2M-380, in the name of Annabel Goldie, on public confidence in the criminal justice system, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 3

For: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Wallace, Mr Jim, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Aitken, Bill, Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fox, Colin, Fraser, Murdo, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Johnstone, Alex, Leckie, Carolyn, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McLetchie, David, Mitchell, Margaret, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scott, Eleanor, Scott, John, Swinburne, John, Tosh, Murray
Abstentions: Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Cunningham, Roseanna, Ewing, Mrs Margaret, Fabiani, Linda, Gallie, Phil, Gibson, Mr Rob, Ingram, Mr Adam, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, Neil, Alex, Scanlon, Mary, Turner, Dr Jean

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 61, Against 23, Abstentions 12.

Amendment agreed to.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The next question is, that amendment S2M-380.1, in the name of Michael Matheson, which seeks to amend motion S2M-380, in the name of Annabel Goldie, on public confidence in the criminal justice system, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 4

For: Aitken, Bill, Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Cunningham, Roseanna, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Ewing, Mrs Margaret, Fabiani, Linda, Fergusson, Alex, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Gibson, Mr Rob, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Ingram, Mr Adam, Johnstone, Alex, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McLetchie, David, Mitchell, Margaret, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Neil, Alex, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, Eleanor, Scott, John, Tosh, Murray, Turner, Dr Jean
Against: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Fox, Colin, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Leckie, Carolyn, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Swinburne, John, Wallace, Mr Jim, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 32, Against 64, Abstentions 0.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The next question is, that motion S2M-380, in the name of Annabel Goldie, on public confidence in the criminal justice system, as amended by Hugh Henry's amendment, be agreed to. Are we all agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 5

For: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Turner, Dr Jean, Wallace, Mr Jim, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Fergusson, Alex, Fox, Colin, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Leckie, Carolyn, Mundell, David, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scott, Eleanor, Scott, John, Swinburne, John
Abstentions: Aitken, Bill, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Cunningham, Roseanna, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Ewing, Mrs Margaret, Fabiani, Linda, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Gibson, Mr Rob, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Ingram, Mr Adam, Johnstone, Alex, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McLetchie, David, Mitchell, Margaret, Monteith, Mr Brian, Neil, Alex, Scanlon, Mary, Tosh, Murray

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 62, Against 13, Abstentions 21.

Motion, as amended, agreed to.

[Resolved,]

That the Parliament welcomes the recognition by the First Minister of the need to "regain trust and confidence" in our criminal justice system; welcomes the Scottish Executive's decision to establish a judicially-led Sentencing Commission and the commitment to introduce legislation to modernise the operation of the High Court; recognises that the Scottish Executive will act on the McInnes Review and will bring forward further proposals for court reform; notes the measures being introduced that will give more support to victims and witnesses in the criminal justice system, and believes that the record number of police officers in Scotland, the substantial increase in civilian staff and the moves to release police officers for front-line duties will enhance delivery of police services in local communities.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The next question is, that amendment S2M-406.2, in the name of Jamie McGrigor, which seeks to amend motion S2M-406, in the name of Frank McAveety, on the Scottish national theatre, be agreed to. Are we all agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 6

For: Aitken, Bill, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Canavan, Dennis, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fox, Colin, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Johnstone, Alex, Leckie, Carolyn, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McLetchie, David, Mitchell, Margaret, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Swinburne, John, Tosh, Murray, Turner, Dr Jean
Against: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Cunningham, Roseanna, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ewing, Mrs Margaret, Fabiani, Linda, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Gibson, Mr Rob, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Ingram, Mr Adam, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Neil, Alex, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Wallace, Mr Jim, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Abstentions: Scott, Eleanor

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 21, Against 74, Abstentions 1.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The next question is, that amendment S2M-406.1, in the name of Colin Fox, which seeks to amend motion S2M-406, in the name of Frank McAveety, on the Scottish national theatre, be agreed to. Are we all agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 7

For: Aitken, Bill, Baird, Shiona, Ballance, Chris, Ballard, Mark, Brocklebank, Mr Ted, Canavan, Dennis, Cunningham, Roseanna, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Ewing, Mrs Margaret, Fabiani, Linda, Fergusson, Alex, Fox, Colin, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Gibson, Mr Rob, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Harper, Robin, Harvie, Patrick, Ingram, Mr Adam, Johnstone, Alex, Leckie, Carolyn, Matheson, Michael, Maxwell, Mr Stewart, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McLetchie, David, Mitchell, Margaret, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Neil, Alex, Ruskell, Mr Mark, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, Eleanor, Scott, John, Swinburne, John, Tosh, Murray, Turner, Dr Jean
Against: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Deacon, Susan, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Lamont, Johann, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, May, Christine, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McMahon, Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Pringle, Mike, Purvis, Jeremy, Radcliffe, Nora, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mike, Scott, Tavish, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Wallace, Mr Jim, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The result of the division is: For 36, Against 60, Abstentions 0.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The ninth question is, that motion S2M-406, in the name of Frank McAveety, on the Scottish national theatre, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament welcomes the announcement of Scottish Executive funding to realise the National Theatre of Scotland; commends the Executive on its vision in supporting the radical concept of a commissioning theatre of national and international status to present theatrical and writing excellence to all the people of Scotland and take Scotland's creative talent to the world stage, and endorses the Executive's commitment to the infrastructure of Scottish regional theatre from which new work will come.

Photo of George Reid George Reid None

The 10 th and final question is, that motion S2M-410, in the name of Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on the membership of committees, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament agrees that the following members be appointed to committees— Scott Barrie to replace Maureen Macmillan on the Communities Committee, and Maureen Macmillan to replace Scott Barrie on the Justice 2 Committee.