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– in the Scottish Parliament at 5:05 pm on 3 October 2002.

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Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament 5:05, 3 October 2002

I have eight questions to put to the chamber, so attention, please.

The first question is, that motion S1M-3386, in the name of Mike Rumbles, on behalf of the Standards Committee, on the "Code of Conduct for Members of the Scottish Parliament", be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

That is agreed.

The second question is, that motion S1M-3429, in the name of Mike Rumbles, on behalf of the Standards Committee

Photo of Lloyd Quinan Lloyd Quinan Scottish National Party

On a point of order. I do not think that you heard what was said, Presiding Officer. I said no.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

I am terribly sorry. You are quite right that I did not hear it. Minorities who want to shout have to shout very loudly— [Interruption.] Order. I heard a mutter of agreement all round the chamber, but out of fairness I will go back to the first question and put it again— [Interruption.] Order. It helps if members are quiet when I put questions.

The first question is, that motion S1M-3386, in the name of Mike Rumbles, on behalf of the Standards Committee, on the "Code of Conduct for Members of the Scottish Parliament", be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 1

For: Aitken, Bill, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Campbell, Colin, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Cunningham, Roseanna, Curran, Ms Margaret, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Eadie, Helen, Ewing, Dr Winnie, Ewing, Fergus, Fabiani, Linda, Ferguson, Patricia, Fergusson, Alex, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Fraser, Murdo, Gibson, Mr Kenneth, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Grahame, Christine, Gray, Iain, Hamilton, Mr Duncan, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Hyslop, Fiona, Ingram, Mr Adam, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Johnstone, Alex, Kerr, Mr Andy, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lochhead, Richard, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, McAllion, Mr John, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McGugan, Irene, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McLeish, Henry, McLeod, Fiona, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morgan, Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Murray, Dr Elaine, Neil, Alex, Oldfather, Irene, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Radcliffe, Nora, Raffan, Mr Keith, Reid, Mr George, Robison, Shona, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mr Mike, Russell, Michael, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Scott, Tavish, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stevenson, Stewart, Sturgeon, Nicola, Swinney, Mr John, Tosh, Mr Murray, Wallace, Ben, Wallace, Mr Jim, Welsh, Mr Andrew, White, Ms Sandra, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Gallie, Phil, Harding, Mr Keith, MacDonald, Ms Margo, Monteith, Mr Brian, Quinan, Mr Lloyd
Abstentions: Elder, Dorothy-Grace, Harper, Robin, McMahon, Mr Michael, Paterson, Mr Gil, Sheridan, Tommy, Young, John

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 95, Against 5, Abstentions 6.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament agrees to amend paragraph 10.2.1 of the Code of Conduct for Members of the Scottish Parliament as follows: leave out "MSPs should not communicate any complaint to the press or other media until a decision has been made as to how the complaint is to be dealt with" and insert:

"Disclosure of Complaints

10.2.1A Members should not disclose, communicate or discuss any complaint or intention to make a complaint with members of the press or media prior to the lodging of the complaint or while the Standards Committee is receiving assistance from an adviser appointed under paragraph 10.2.8 in relation to the complaint. The Standards Committee is to be regarded as receiving the assistance of an adviser appointed under paragraph 10.2.8 in relation to a complaint until it has confirmed that no assistance or further assistance from any such adviser will be sought. Where, during the period when the restriction applies, any complaint or intention to make a complaint has been publicised in the press or media without the involvement of the Member who is the subject of the complaint, that Member may issue a brief statement. In doing so, a Member should, as far as possible, avoid discussing details of the complaint or intention to make a complaint."

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The second question is, that motion S1M-3429, in the name of Mike Rumbles, on behalf of the Standards Committee, on its "Report on Replacing the Members' Interests Order: Proposal for a Committee Bill", be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

That is a good example of how to shout. There will be a division.

Division number 2

For: Aitken, Bill, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Campbell, Colin, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Cunningham, Roseanna, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Eadie, Helen, Ewing, Dr Winnie, Ewing, Fergus, Fabiani, Linda, Ferguson, Patricia, Fergusson, Alex, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Fraser, Murdo, Gibson, Mr Kenneth, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Grahame, Christine, Gray, Iain, Hamilton, Mr Duncan, Harper, Robin, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Hyslop, Fiona, Ingram, Mr Adam, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Johnstone, Alex, Kerr, Mr Andy, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lochhead, Richard, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, McAllion, Mr John, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McGugan, Irene, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McLeish, Henry, McLeod, Fiona, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morgan, Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Murray, Dr Elaine, Neil, Alex, Oldfather, Irene, Paterson, Mr Gil, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Radcliffe, Nora, Raffan, Mr Keith, Reid, Mr George, Robison, Shona, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mr Mike, Russell, Michael, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Scott, Tavish, Sheridan, Tommy, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stevenson, Stewart, Sturgeon, Nicola, Swinney, Mr John, Tosh, Mr Murray, Wallace, Ben, Wallace, Mr Jim, Welsh, Mr Andrew, White, Ms Sandra, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan
Against: Gallie, Phil, Harding, Mr Keith, Monteith, Mr Brian, Young, John
Abstentions: Elder, Dorothy-Grace, MacDonald, Ms Margo, McMahon, Mr Michael, Quinan, Mr Lloyd

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 97, Against 4, Abstentions 4.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament agrees to the proposal for a Committee Bill under Rule 9.15 contained in the Standards Committee's 7th Report 2002, Replacing the Members' Interests Order: Proposal for a Committee Bill, (SP Paper 621).

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The third question is, that motion S1M-3428, in the name of Mike Rumbles, on behalf of the Standards Committee, on its first report on lobbying, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament notes the recommendations of the Standards Committee's 1st Report 2002, Lobbying, (SP Paper 507) and agrees to amend section 7 of the Code of Conduct for Members of the Scottish Parliament as set out in Annex E of the report.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The fourth question is, that amendment S1M-3450.1, in the name of Nicola Sturgeon, which seeks to amend motion S1M-3450, in the name of Malcolm Chisholm, on action against coronary heart disease and stroke, be agreed to.

Amendment agreed to.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The fifth question is, that amendment S1M-3450.2, in the name of Ben Wallace, which seeks to amend motion S1M-3450, in the name of Malcolm Chisholm, on action against coronary heart disease and stroke, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 3

For: Aitken, Bill, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Harding, Mr Keith, Johnstone, Alex, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McNeil, Mr Duncan, Monteith, Mr Brian, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Tosh, Mr Murray, Wallace, Ben, Young, John
Against: Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Campbell, Colin, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Cunningham, Roseanna, Curran, Ms Margaret, Eadie, Helen, Elder, Dorothy-Grace, Ewing, Dr Winnie, Ewing, Fergus, Fabiani, Linda, Ferguson, Patricia, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Gibson, Mr Kenneth, Gillon, Karen, Godman, Trish, Gorrie, Donald, Grahame, Christine, Gray, Iain, Hamilton, Mr Duncan, Harper, Robin, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Hyslop, Fiona, Ingram, Mr Adam, Jackson, Dr Sylvia, Jackson, Gordon, Jamieson, Cathy, Jamieson, Margaret, Kerr, Mr Andy, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lochhead, Richard, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, MacDonald, Ms Margo, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Macmillan, Maureen, Martin, Paul, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, McAllion, Mr John, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McGugan, Irene, McLeish, Henry, McLeod, Fiona, McMahon, Mr Michael, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morgan, Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Murray, Dr Elaine, Neil, Alex, Oldfather, Irene, Paterson, Mr Gil, Peacock, Peter, Peattie, Cathy, Quinan, Mr Lloyd, Radcliffe, Nora, Reid, Mr George, Robison, Shona, Robson, Euan, Russell, Michael, Scott, Tavish, Sheridan, Tommy, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stevenson, Stewart, Sturgeon, Nicola, Swinney, Mr John, Wallace, Mr Jim, Welsh, Mr Andrew, White, Ms Sandra, Whitefield, Karen, Wilson, Allan

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 15, Against 88, Abstentions 0.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The next question is, that motion S1M-3450, in the name of Malcolm Chisholm, as amended, be agreed to.

Motion, as amended, agreed to.

Resolved, That the Parliament recognises the unacceptable toll which coronary heart disease and stroke continue to take on Scottish families and communities; acknowledges the role of front-line staff in delivering and developing services for the thousands of people affected each year; supports health improvement initiatives to reduce the incidence of the diseases and the disproportionate burden suffered by the most disadvantaged communities, and looks forward to the development of more integrated services that are backed up by significant and dedicated resources and result in shorter waiting times for patients.

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The next question is, that motion S1M-3452, in the name of Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on the designation of a lead committee, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament agrees that the Rural Development Committee be designated as lead committee in consideration of the Organic Farming Targets (Scotland) Bill and that the Transport and the Environment Committee be a secondary committee.

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The last question is, that motion S1M-3455, in the name of Patricia Ferguson, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on the establishment of a committee, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament agrees to establish a committee of the Parliament as follows:

Name of Committee: Robin Rigg Offshore Wind Farm (Navigation and Fishing) (Scotland) Bill Committee Remit: To consider the Robin Rigg Offshore Wind Farm (Navigation and Fishing) (Scotland) Bill Duration: Until the Bill is passed, or falls or is otherwise no longer in progress Convenership: The Convener will be a member of the Labour Party and the Deputy Convener a member of the Scottish National Party Membership: Colin Campbell, John Home Robertson, Tom McCabe, Jamie McGrigor and Mike Rumbles.