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Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament 5:05, 26 September 2002

I have 10 questions to put to members as a result of today's business.

The first question is, that amendment S1M-3418.2, in the name of Allan Wilson, which seeks to amend motion S1M-3418, in the name of Alex Fergusson, on business sustainability in rural Scotland, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 1

For: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Gillon, Karen, Gray, Iain, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jamieson, Cathy, Jenkins, Ian, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Martin, Paul, McAllion, Mr John, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Mr Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mr Mike, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen
Against: Adam, Brian, Canavan, Dennis, Davidson, Mr David, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Hamilton, Mr Duncan, Harding, Mr Keith, Ingram, Mr Adam, Johnstone, Alex, Lochhead, Richard, MacAskill, Mr Kenny, MacDonald, Ms Margo, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McLeod, Fiona, McLetchie, David, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Paterson, Mr Gil, Quinan, Mr Lloyd, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Sheridan, Tommy, Stevenson, Stewart, Tosh, Mr Murray, Young, John
Abstentions: Harper, Robin

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 53, Against 31, Abstentions 1.

Amendment agreed to.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The next question is, that amendment S1M-3418.1, in the name of Richard Lochhead, which seeks to amend motion S1M-3418, in the name of Alex Fergusson, on business sustainability in rural Scotland, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 2

For: Adam, Brian, Canavan, Dennis, Elder, Dorothy-Grace, Hamilton, Mr Duncan, Ingram, Mr Adam, Lochhead, Richard, MacAskill, Mr Kenny, MacDonald, Ms Margo, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, McLeod, Fiona, Paterson, Mr Gil, Quinan, Mr Lloyd, Sheridan, Tommy, Stevenson, Stewart
Against: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Davidson, Mr David, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Fergusson, Alex, Finnie, Ross, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Gillon, Karen, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Gray, Iain, Harding, Mr Keith, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jamieson, Cathy, Jenkins, Ian, Johnstone, Alex, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Martin, Paul, McAllion, Mr John, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McLetchie, David, McMahon, Mr Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Monteith, Mr Brian, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Mundell, David, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mr Mike, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Tosh, Mr Murray, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen, Young, John
Abstentions: Harper, Robin

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 15, Against 70, Abstentions 1.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The next question is, that motion S1M-3418, in the name of Alex Fergusson, on business sustainability in rural Scotland, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 3

For: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Gillon, Karen, Gray, Iain, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jamieson, Cathy, Jenkins, Ian, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Martin, Paul, McAllion, Mr John, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Mr Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mr Mike, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen
Against: Adam, Brian, Canavan, Dennis, Davidson, Mr David, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Hamilton, Mr Duncan, Harding, Mr Keith, Ingram, Mr Adam, Johnstone, Alex, Lochhead, Richard, MacAskill, Mr Kenny, MacDonald, Ms Margo, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McLeod, Fiona, McLetchie, David, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Paterson, Mr Gil, Quinan, Mr Lloyd, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Stevenson, Stewart, Tosh, Mr Murray, Young, John
Abstentions: Harper, Robin, Sheridan, Tommy

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 53, Against 30, Abstentions 2.

Motion, as amended, agreed to.

[Resolved,]

That the Parliament endorses the Scottish Executive's significant plans for investing in Scotland over the next three years to support economic growth, including sustainable rural development; notes that a strong economy provides the foundation for meeting social justice objectives in respect of increasing opportunities for all, first-class public services and infrastructure, and further endorses the key priorities and long-term actions set out in A Smart, Successful Scotland, the enterprise strategy for urban and rural areas, of helping businesses and communities grow, building global connections, and improving Scotland's skills base.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The next question is, that amendment S1M-3422.2, in the name of Lewis Macdonald, which seeks to amend motion S1M-3422, in the name of David Mundell, on the impact on transport of the comprehensive spending review, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 4

For: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Gillon, Karen, Gray, Iain, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jamieson, Cathy, Jenkins, Ian, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Martin, Paul, McAllion, Mr John, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Mr Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Robson, Euan, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen
Against: Adam, Brian, Davidson, Mr David, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Hamilton, Mr Duncan, Harding, Mr Keith, Ingram, Mr Adam, Johnstone, Alex, Lochhead, Richard, MacAskill, Mr Kenny, MacDonald, Ms Margo, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McLeod, Fiona, McLetchie, David, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Paterson, Mr Gil, Quinan, Mr Lloyd, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Stevenson, Stewart, Tosh, Mr Murray, Young, John
Abstentions: Harper, Robin, Sheridan, Tommy

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 53, Against 29, Abstentions 2.

Amendment agreed to.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The next question is, that amendment S1M-3422.1, in the name of Kenny MacAskill, which seeks to amend motion S1M-3422, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 5

For: Adam, Brian, Canavan, Dennis, Elder, Dorothy-Grace, Ingram, Mr Adam, Lochhead, Richard, MacAskill, Mr Kenny, MacDonald, Ms Margo, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, Paterson, Mr Gil, Quinan, Mr Lloyd, Sheridan, Tommy, Stevenson, Stewart
Against: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Davidson, Mr David, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Fergusson, Alex, Finnie, Ross, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Gillon, Karen, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Gray, Iain, Harding, Mr Keith, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jamieson, Cathy, Jenkins, Ian, Johnstone, Alex, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Martin, Paul, McAllion, Mr John, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McLetchie, David, McMahon, Mr Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Monteith, Mr Brian, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Mundell, David, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mr Mike, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Tosh, Mr Murray, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen, Young, John
Abstentions: Harper, Robin

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 13, Against 70, Abstentions 1.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The next question is, that motion S1M-3422, in the name of David Mundell, on the impact on transport of the comprehensive spending review, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 6

For: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Canavan, Dennis, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Gillon, Karen, Gray, Iain, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jamieson, Cathy, Jenkins, Ian, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Martin, Paul, McAllion, Mr John, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Mr Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Robson, Euan, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Elaine, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen
Against: Adam, Brian, Davidson, Mr David, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fraser, Murdo, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Harding, Mr Keith, Johnstone, Alex, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McLetchie, David, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Quinan, Mr Lloyd, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Tosh, Mr Murray, Young, John
Abstentions: Hamilton, Mr Duncan, Harper, Robin, Ingram, Mr Adam, Lochhead, Richard, MacAskill, Mr Kenny, MacDonald, Ms Margo, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, McLeod, Fiona, Paterson, Mr Gil, Sheridan, Tommy, Stevenson, Stewart

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 53, Against 18, Abstentions 12.

Motion, as amended, agreed to.

[Resolved,]

That the Parliament welcomes the increase in spending that the Scottish budget settlement for 2003-06 provides for transport as one of the Scottish Executive's five key priority areas and recognises that these resources lay the foundation for priority projects set out in the Transport Delivery Report that will transform Scotland's transport infrastructure over the next decade, delivering a sustainable transport system fit for the 21st century, which supports business and economic growth and meets the needs of all in society.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The next question is, that amendment S1M-3423.2, in the name of Kenneth Gibson, which seeks to amend motion S1M-3423, in the name of Margaret Curran, on race equality, be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members:

No.

Division number 7

For: Adam, Brian, Canavan, Dennis, Elder, Dorothy-Grace, Hamilton, Mr Duncan, Harper, Robin, Ingram, Mr Adam, Lochhead, Richard, MacAskill, Mr Kenny, MacDonald, Ms Margo, Marwick, Tricia, Matheson, Michael, McLeod, Fiona, Paterson, Mr Gil, Quinan, Mr Lloyd, Sheridan, Tommy, Stevenson, Stewart
Against: Alexander, Ms Wendy, Baillie, Jackie, Barrie, Scott, Boyack, Sarah, Brankin, Rhona, Brown, Robert, Butler, Bill, Chisholm, Malcolm, Craigie, Cathie, Curran, Ms Margaret, Eadie, Helen, Ferguson, Patricia, Finnie, Ross, Fitzpatrick, Brian, Gillon, Karen, Gray, Iain, Henry, Hugh, Home Robertson, Mr John, Hughes, Janis, Jamieson, Cathy, Jenkins, Ian, Livingstone, Marilyn, Lyon, George, Macdonald, Lewis, Macintosh, Mr Kenneth, MacKay, Angus, Maclean, Kate, Martin, Paul, McAveety, Mr Frank, McCabe, Mr Tom, McConnell, Mr Jack, McMahon, Mr Michael, McNeil, Mr Duncan, McNeill, Pauline, McNulty, Des, Morrison, Mr Alasdair, Muldoon, Bristow, Mulligan, Mrs Mary, Munro, John Farquhar, Murray, Dr Elaine, Oldfather, Irene, Peattie, Cathy, Robson, Euan, Rumbles, Mr Mike, Simpson, Dr Richard, Smith, Iain, Smith, Mrs Margaret, Stephen, Nicol, Stone, Mr Jamie, Watson, Mike, Whitefield, Karen
Abstentions: Davidson, Mr David, Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James, Fergusson, Alex, Fraser, Murdo, Gallie, Phil, Goldie, Miss Annabel, Harding, Mr Keith, Johnstone, Alex, McAllion, Mr John, McGrigor, Mr Jamie, McIntosh, Mrs Lyndsay, McLetchie, David, Monteith, Mr Brian, Mundell, David, Scanlon, Mary, Scott, John, Smith, Elaine, Tosh, Mr Murray, Young, John

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The result of the division is: For 16, Against 51, Abstentions 19.

Amendment disagreed to.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

Amendment S1M-3423.1, in the name of Lyndsay McIntosh, was not moved. Therefore, the next question is, that motion S1M-3423, in the name of Margaret Curran, on race equality, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament recognises the importance of tackling racism, prejudice and inequality as integral to promoting an inclusive, confident and prosperous Scotland that retains and attracts talent from different cultures and backgrounds and welcomes the anti-racism and race equality work being done by the Executive and other national and local bodies.

Photo of Tommy Sheridan Tommy Sheridan SSP

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My point relates to the withdrawal of amendments.

Photo of Tommy Sheridan Tommy Sheridan SSP

The point is that another amendment was lodged and perhaps the fact that that amendment existed had a bearing on your choice of which amendments to select. I ask that, in future, you ask parties to move amendments to which they speak.

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

I may be omnipotent, but I am not omniscient: I have no idea what members will do once the debate is under way. Anyone has a right not to move an amendment in the light of the discussion. I understand that that is what happened. I understand Mr Sheridan's point. It is an interesting one, but it is not really valid.

The next question is, that motion S1M-3421, in the name of Patricia Ferguson, on the approval of Scottish statutory instruments, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament agrees that the following Orders be approved— the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman Act 2002 (Amendment) Order 2002; the Scotland Act 1998 (Cross-Border Public Authorities) (Adaptation of Functions etc.) (Amendment) Order 2002; and the Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning) (West Coast) (No.11) Order 2002 (SSI 2002/388).

Photo of Lord David Steel Lord David Steel Presiding Officer, Scottish Parliament

The last question is, that motion S1M-3425, in the name of Patricia Ferguson, on substitution on committees, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to.

That the Parliament agrees the following nominated committee substitutes for the Labour Party as permitted under Rule 6.3A— Karen Whitefield Equal Opportunities Committee Wendy Alexander Finance Committee Trish Godman Procedures Committee Scott Barrie Public Petitions Committee Jackie Baillie Subordinate Legislation Committee Janis Hughes Audit Committee Marilyn Livingstone Education, Culture and Sport Committee Kate Maclean Justice 1 Committee Angus MacKay Local Government Committee John McAllion Rural Development Committee Elaine Thomson Enterprise and Lifelong Learning Committee Tom McCabe Health and Community Care Committee Sylvia Jackson Justice 2 Committee Sarah Boyack Social Justice Committee Karen Gillon Standards Committee Helen Eadie Transport and the Environment Committee