9. Voting Time

– in the Senedd at 6:07 pm on 1 October 2025.

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Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:07, 1 October 2025

Before I move on to the votes, there is a Member whose voting seems to be from his car and, therefore, I will not be accepting that vote, in accordance with guidance that has been issued. 

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:08, 1 October 2025

(Translated)

The first vote this evening is on item 5, debate on a Member's legislative proposal. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Mick Antoniw. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 34, 15 abstentions and none against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.

(Translated)

Item 5. Debate on a Member's legislative proposal—a Bill on fly-tipping : For: 34, Against: 0, Abstain: 15

Motion has been agreed

Division number 6450 Item 5. Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal - a Bill on fly-tipping

Aye: 34 MSs

Absent: 10 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: A-Z by last name

Abstained: 15 MSs

Abstained: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:10, 1 October 2025

(Translated)

The next vote is on item 7, the Welsh Conservatives' debate on the economy. I call for a vote on the motion without Amendment, tabled in the name of Paul Davies. If the motion is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 13, no abstentions, 36 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 7. Welsh Conservatives' debate—The economy. Motion without amendment: For: 13, Against: 36, Abstain: 0

Motion has been rejected

Division number 6451 Item 7. Welsh Conservatives Debate - The economy. Motion without amendment

Aye: 13 MSs

No: 36 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:11, 1 October 2025

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. Open the vote. Close the vote.

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:12, 1 October 2025

My apologies. I've got to do some calculations as to how I work the screen out, because it was tied, but I have to take one vote away, so it's not tied. So, I've got to try and sort my screen out.

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour

(Translated)

In favour 24, no abstentions, 25 against. Therefore, Amendment 1 is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 7. Welsh Conservatives' debate—The economy. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt: For: 24, Against: 25, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been rejected

Division number 6452 Item 7. Welsh Conservatives Debate - The economy. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt

Aye: 24 MSs

No: 25 MSs

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:12, 1 October 2025

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on Amendment 2, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 11, no abstentions, 38 against. Therefore, amendment 2 is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 7. Welsh Conservatives' debate—The economy. Amendment 2, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan: For: 11, Against: 38, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been rejected

Division number 6453 Item 7. Welsh Conservatives Debate - The economy. Amendment 2, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan

Aye: 11 MSs

No: 38 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:13, 1 October 2025

(Translated)

As the Senedd has not agreed the motion without Amendment and has not agreed the amendments tabled to the motion, the motion is therefore not agreed.

The final vote this evening will be on item 8, the Plaid Cymru debate on child poverty. I call for a vote on the motion without amendment, tabled in the name of Rhun ap Iorwerth. If the motion is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 11, no abstentions, 38 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - child poverty. Motion without amendment: For: 11, Against: 38, Abstain: 0

Motion has been rejected

Division number 6454 Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - child poverty. Motion without amendment

Aye: 11 MSs

No: 38 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:15, 1 October 2025

(Translated)

I call for a vote on Amendment 1 tabled in the name of Jane Hutt. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, 1 abstention, 24 against. Therefore, the vote is tied. As required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote against amendment 1. So, amendment 1 is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - child poverty. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt: For: 24, Against: 24, Abstain: 1

As there was an equality of votes, the Deputy Presiding Officer used his casting vote in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii).

Amendment has been rejected

Division number 6455 Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - child poverty. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt

Aye: 24 MSs

No: 24 MSs

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Abstained: 1 MS

Absent: A-Z by last name

Abstained: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:16, 1 October 2025

(Translated)

I call for a vote on Amendment 2 tabled in the name of Paul Davies. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 13, 12 abstentions, 24 against. Therefore, amendment 2 is not agreed. 

(Translated)

Item 8. Amendment 2, tabled in the name of Paul Davies: For: 13, Against: 24, Abstain: 12

Amendment has been rejected

Division number 6456 Item 8. Amendment 2, tabled in the name of Paul Davies

Aye: 13 MSs

No: 24 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Abstained: 12 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Abstained: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:17, 1 October 2025

(Translated)

As the Senedd has not agreed the motion without Amendment and has not agreed the amendments tabled to the motion, the motion is therefore not agreed.

And that concludes voting for today.

Division

The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.

amendment

As a bill passes through Parliament, MPs and peers may suggest amendments - or changes - which they believe will improve the quality of the legislation.

Many hundreds of amendments are proposed by members to major bills as they pass through committee stage, report stage and third reading in both Houses of Parliament.

In the end only a handful of amendments will be incorporated into any bill.

The Speaker - or the chairman in the case of standing committees - has the power to select which amendments should be debated.

Conservatives

The Conservatives are a centre-right political party in the UK, founded in the 1830s. They are also known as the Tory party.

With a lower-case ‘c’, ‘conservative’ is an adjective which implies a dislike of change, and a preference for traditional values.

Amendment

As a bill passes through Parliament, MPs and peers may suggest amendments - or changes - which they believe will improve the quality of the legislation.

Many hundreds of amendments are proposed by members to major bills as they pass through committee stage, report stage and third reading in both Houses of Parliament.

In the end only a handful of amendments will be incorporated into any bill.

The Speaker - or the chairman in the case of standing committees - has the power to select which amendments should be debated.