8. Voting Time

– in the Senedd at 6:00 pm on 21 May 2025.

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Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:00, 21 May 2025

(Translated)

We will be voting this evening on item 7, the Plaid Cymru debate on pensions. I call for a vote on the motion without Amendment, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendment tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 11, 12 abstentions and 24 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 7. Plaid Cymru Debate: Pensions. Motion without amendment: For: 11, Against: 24, Abstain: 12

Motion has been rejected

Division number 6243 Item 7. Plaid Cymru Debate - Pensions. Motion without amendment

Aye: 11 MSs

No: 24 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: 13 MSs

Abstained: 12 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Abstained: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:01, 21 May 2025

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on Amendment 1. If amendment 1—

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour

(Translated)

We will vote on Amendment 1. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions and 23 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is agreed.

(Translated)

Item 7. Plaid Cymru Debate: Pensions. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt: For: 24, Against: 23, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Division number 6244 Item 7. Plaid Cymru Debate - Pensions. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt

Aye: 24 MSs

No: 23 MSs

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 13 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:02, 21 May 2025

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.

(Translated)

Motion NDM8906 as amended:

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes the significant and long-standing pensions injustices as a result of the inaction of successive UK Governments.

2. Recognises the work of campaign groups such as 1950’s women, former workers at Allied Steel and Wire, and members of the British Coal staff superannuation scheme.

3. Welcomes the recent reforms made by the UK Government to the Mineworkers’ Pension Scheme, including the return of the investment reserve fund and the resulting increase in pension payments to former mineworkers.

4. Notes that the Welsh Government has consistently raised concerns about pension injustices with successive UK Governments, and continues to advocate on behalf of:

a) Allied Steel and Wire pensioners;

b) women born in the 1950s affected by changes to the state pension age; and

c) members of the British Coal staff superannuation scheme.

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:02, 21 May 2025

(Translated)

Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions and 23 against. Therefore, the motion as amended is agreed.

(Translated)

Item 7. Plaid Cymru Debate: Pensions. Motion as amended: For: 24, Against: 23, Abstain: 0

Motion as amended has been agreed

Division number 6245 Item 7. Plaid Cymru Debate - Pensions. Motion as amended

Aye: 24 MSs

No: 23 MSs

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 13 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:03, 21 May 2025

(Translated)

That concludes voting for today.

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Amendment

As a bill passes through Parliament, MPs and peers may suggest amendments - or changes - which they believe will improve the quality of the legislation.

Many hundreds of amendments are proposed by members to major bills as they pass through committee stage, report stage and third reading in both Houses of Parliament.

In the end only a handful of amendments will be incorporated into any bill.

The Speaker - or the chairman in the case of standing committees - has the power to select which amendments should be debated.