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– in the Senedd at 6:10 pm on 12 June 2024.

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Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:10, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

The first vote is on item 7, the Welsh Conservatives' debate on economic policy. I call for a vote on the motion without amendment. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 14, no abstentions, 36 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed. 

(Translated)

Item 7. Welsh Conservatives' Debate - Economic policy. Motion without amendment: For: 14, Against: 36, Abstain: 0

Motion has been rejected

Division number 5338 Item 7. Welsh Conservatives Debate - Economic policy. Motion without amendment

Aye: 14 MSs

No: 36 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:11, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on amendment 1. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2, 3 and 4 will be deselected. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 26, no abstentions, 24 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is agreed. 

(Translated)

Item 7. Welsh Conservatives' Debate - Economic policy. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt: For: 26, Against: 24, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Division number 5339 Item 7. Welsh Conservatives Debate - Economic policy. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt

Aye: 26 MSs

No: 24 MSs

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

(Translated)

Amendments 2, 3 and 4 deselected.

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:12, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

The next vote is, therefore, on amendment 5. I call for a vote on amendment 5. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 11, no abstentions, 39 against. Therefore, amendment 5 is not agreed. 

(Translated)

Item 7. Welsh Conservatives' Debate - Economic policy. Amendment 5, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan: For: 11, Against: 39, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been rejected

Division number 5340 Item 7. Welsh Conservatives Debate - Economic policy. Amendment 5, tabled in the name of Heledd Fychan

Aye: 11 MSs

No: 39 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:12, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.

(Translated)

Motion NDM8606 as amended:

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Welcomes:

a) the Welsh Government’s clear plan set out in the Economic Mission: Priorities for a Stronger Economy;

b) that wages have risen faster in Wales than England since 2011;

c) the strength of regional working and partnerships;

d) the Welsh Government’s investment of over £143 million in quality apprenticeships;

e) the Welsh Government’s Young Person’s Guarantee which has supported over 27,000 young people;

f) continued investment through Business Wales and Development Bank of Wales;

g) the provision of over £140 million small business rates relief which supports ratepayers for around 70,000 properties across Wales every year; and

h) £78 million to provide a fifth successive year of support for retail, leisure and hospitality businesses with their non-domestic rates bills.

2. Regrets that under the UK Government:

a) there has been a lack of a clear economic and industrial plan with no detailed spending plans beyond 2024-25, resulting in 14 years of chaos;

b) there are the most sustained price rises since the Bank of England’s independence, with prices 21.3 per cent higher in April than three years prior;

c) the Welsh Government has a Budget in 2024-25 which is £3 billion lower than if it had grown in line with GDP since 2010; and

d) Wales has almost £1.3 billion less funding in real terms due to the UK Government’s failure to honour its commitments and replace EU funds in full.

3. Calls on the current UK Government to recognise:

a) that base rate changes by the Bank of England and falling energy prices are the principal reason for the recent reduction in inflation;

b) that the ONS has confirmed there are issues with the labour force survey, which continue to affect the data quality of labour market statistics and may not give a true picture of the situation in Wales;

c) the significant harm done to the Economy through Liz Truss’ disastrous mini budget, which has left people and families in Wales paying higher mortgages and bills; and

d) that Levelling Up and Shared Prosperity Funds have been developed with very little planning and consultation and have actively undermined devolution.

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:12, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 26, no abstentions, 24 against. Therefore, the motion as amended is agreed. 

(Translated)

Item 7. Welsh Conservatives' Debate - Economic policy. Motion as amended: For: 26, Against: 24, Abstain: 0

Motion as amended has been agreed

Division number 5341 Item 7. Welsh Conservatives Debate - Economic policy. Motion as amended

Aye: 26 MSs

No: 24 MSs

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:13, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

The next vote is on item 8, the Plaid Cymru debate on mental health and learning disability service at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. I call for a vote on the motion without amendment. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 25, no abstentions, 25 against. Therefore, the vote is tied. As required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote against the motion. So, the final result is: in favour 25, no abstentions and 26 against. The motion is, therefore, not agreed.  

(Translated)

Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - Mental health and learning disability services at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. Motion without amendment.: For: 25, Against: 25, Abstain: 0

As there was an equality of votes, the Deputy Presiding Officer used his casting vote in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii).

Motion has been rejected

Division number 5342 Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - Mental health and learning disability services at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. Motion without amendment.

Aye: 25 MSs

No: 25 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:15, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on amendment 1. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. Open the vote. Close the vote. The vote is tied again. In favour 25, no abstentions, and 25 against. Once again, as required by Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote against the amendment. In favour 25, no abstentions, and 26 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - Mental health and learning disability services at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt: For: 25, Against: 25, Abstain: 0

As there was an equality of votes, the Deputy Presiding Officer used his casting vote in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii).

Amendment has been rejected

Division number 5343 Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - Mental health and learning disability services at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt

Aye: 25 MSs

No: 25 MSs

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:16, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on amendment 2. Open the vote. Close the vote. Once again, the vote is tied. In favour 25, no abstentions, and 25 against. And, as required by Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote against the amendment. Therefore, there were 25 in favour, no abstentions, and 26 against. Amendment 2 is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - Mental health and learning disability services at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. Amendment 2, tabled in the name of Darren Millar: For: 25, Against: 25, Abstain: 0

As there was an equality of votes, the Deputy Presiding Officer used his casting vote in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii).

Amendment has been rejected

Division number 5344 Item 8. Plaid Cymru Debate - Mental health and learning disability services at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. Amendment 2, tabled in the name of Darren Millar

Aye: 25 MSs

No: 25 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:17, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

As the Senedd has not agreed the motion without amendment, nor the amendments tabled to the motion, the motion is, therefore, not agreed. 

And finally, we will vote on item 9, the Plaid Cymru debate on planning policy for new power lines. I call for a vote on the motion without amendment. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 25, no abstentions, 25 against. As required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote against the motion. Now, in favour 25, no abstentions, 26 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 9. Plaid Cymru Debate - Planning policy for new power lines. Motion without amendment: For: 25, Against: 25, Abstain: 0

As there was an equality of votes, the Deputy Presiding Officer used his casting vote in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii).

Motion has been rejected

Division number 5345 Item 9. Plaid Cymru Debate - Planning policy for new power lines. Motion without amendment

Aye: 25 MSs

No: 25 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:18, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on amendment 1. Open the vote. Close the vote. The vote is tied. As required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote to vote against the amendment. In favour 25, no abstentions, and 26 against. Amendment 1 is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 9. Plaid Cymru Debate - Planning policy for new power lines. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt : For: 25, Against: 25, Abstain: 0

As there was an equality of votes, the Deputy Presiding Officer used his casting vote in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii).

Amendment has been rejected

Division number 5346 Item 9. Plaid Cymru Debate - Planning policy for new power lines. Amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt

Aye: 25 MSs

No: 25 MSs

No: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:19, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on amendment 2, tabled in the name of Darren Millar. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 26, no abstentions, and 24 against. Therefore, amendment 2 is agreed.

(Translated)

Item 9. Plaid Cymru Debate - Planning policy for new power lines. Amendment 2, tabled in the name of Darren Millar: For: 26, Against: 24, Abstain: 0

Amendment has been agreed

Division number 5347 Item 9. Plaid Cymru Debate - Planning policy for new power lines. Amendment 2, tabled in the name of Darren Millar

Aye: 26 MSs

No: 24 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:19, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.

(Translated)

Motion NDM8605 as amended:

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Recognises the preferred position of the Welsh Government that new power lines should be placed underground where possible.

2. Believes that wherever physically possible the undergrounding of new power lines shall be undertaken by way of cable ploughing in preference to open trenching.

3. Calls on the Welsh Government to update Planning Policy Wales paragraph 5.7.9:

a) to remove the existing caveat: ‘however it is recognised that a balanced view must be taken against costs which would render otherwise acceptable projects unviable’; and

b) so that the undergrounding of new infrastructure for conveying electricity shall be an absolute rather than a preferred position, the policy should state: ‘New power lines should be laid underground.’

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure that, in accordance with the precautionary principle,  proposals for the undergrounding of new power lines should require health impact assessments when their proximity to dwellings raises serious future health concerns.

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:19, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 25, no abstentions, and 25 against. As required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote to vote against the motion as amended. There were in favour 25, no abstentions, and 26 against. The motion as amended is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 9. Plaid Cymru Debate - Planning policy for new power lines. Motion as amended: For: 25, Against: 25, Abstain: 0

As there was an equality of votes, the Deputy Presiding Officer used his casting vote in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii).

Motion as amended has been rejected

Division number 5348 Item 9. Plaid Cymru Debate - Planning policy for new power lines. Motion as amended

Aye: 25 MSs

No: 25 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: 10 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of David Rees David Rees Labour 6:20, 12 June 2024

(Translated)

And that brings today's proceedings to a close.

(Translated)

The meeting ended at 18:20