7. Statement by the Minister for Social Partnership: The retail sector — Contributing to Wales's economic mission

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:22 pm on 11 June 2024.

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Photo of Sarah Murphy Sarah Murphy Labour 5:22, 11 June 2024

Thank you very much for all of those questions. You started by saying that the people first was a good place to begin, and that came up through the forum. That came from everybody working together, and that's what they wanted to focus on. When you talk about the labour force, this is something that came up at the retail forum yesterday. It was probably the first thing that we all touched on. There is some data that seems to be coming out from ONS at the moment that's saying that 18 to 24-year-olds at the moment seem less likely to be in the labour market in general. Obviously I say that very tentatively; there hasn't been much digging in to that. But because of that, as you said, how many of us worked in those sectors when we were younger? That's when people tend to come into it, find a love for it, a passion for it, because, as you said, you're talking and dealing with people face to face, and, you know, there are so many skills that you have, personable skills that you have in particular. But they seem to be missing a little bit from the workforce at the moment. I think that that's probably having an impact on it, so that's something that we're going to explore a little bit more, and so is the Cabinet Secretary for Economy.

I think also there's a piece of work there to do with Careers Wales. I know we say this for a number of different sectors, but I think that that's really crucial. But one of the things that I will reiterate on that is that, if you want it to be a sector that people want to train and work in, and work in for a long time, the real living wage, the skills and employability, other things around mental health and well-being; it needs to be a place that is embedded in fair work and that people want to go and work in and work in for a long time.

In terms of the empty shops, I mean, we're starting to see now—. The second part of this now is going to be moving on to the place and the resilience. I'm seeing some excellent examples of places being used as incubators, as places where people can go in and work communally, being used for pop-ups. I think what it needs, really, is that—. Local authorities, as you said, are doing some wonderful things; it's just about working with them, so that they have that confidence. Because, at the moment, when budgets are really tight and the funding pots are kind of there, but you kind of have to figure out how to fit into them and get the most out of them, I think that they just need a little bit of confidence and that working together, to see where things can work.

You mentioned Bridgend and the night-time economy, you know, you can't get a table in some of these towns on a Friday and Saturday night, and that's wonderful. But I think it also highlights that we don't want each town centre to become an identikit of each other; we want each one to have its own personality, so special things and uniqueness that people go there for, so that's what I would like to see each town centre have; I think we all would like that. I recently went to see Siop Inc in Aberystwyth, and that's an incredible store run by a family, and people deliberately go out of their way to go there, just to see her and her family because it's so wonderful. So, I think the sharing of best practice, that's going to become now part of the next strategy.

And just to say on the rates, this is of course coming through; these are questions that I've been asked across the Chamber. Tough choices are being made right now because of budgetary and inflationary pressures, but I will say that only one in five properties are liable for their full bill this year, and we have committed £384 million for non-domestic rates support next year as well. I hope for better days, and I hope that that will be able to change in the future because it is something that's coming through, so I take that on board as well. Diolch.