10. Voting Time

– in the Senedd at 6:45 pm on 30 November 2022.

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Photo of Elin Jones Elin Jones Plaid Cymru 6:45, 30 November 2022

(Translated)

The first vote this afternoon is on item 7, the debate on the petition on protecting the Cambrian mountains by designating them an area of outstanding natural beauty. And I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Jack Sargeant. Open the vote. In favour 43, 11 abstentions, none against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.

(Translated)

Item 7: debate on petition P-06-1302—'Protect Mid-Wales’ unique Cambrian Mountains: designate them an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty'. For: 43, Against: 0, Abstain: 11

Motion has been agreed

Division number 4032 Item 7. Debate on petition P-06-1302 - Protect Mid-Wales’ unique Cambrian Mountains: designate them an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty

Aye: 43 MSs

Absent: 6 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: A-Z by last name

Abstained: 11 MSs

Abstained: A-Z by last name

Photo of Elin Jones Elin Jones Plaid Cymru 6:46, 30 November 2022

(Translated)

The next vote is on item 8—the Welsh Conservatives' debate on a Wales COVID-19 inquiry special purpose committee. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Darren Millar. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 27, no abstentions, and 27 against. Therefore, as required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote against the motion. The result of the vote therefore is: in favour 27, no abstentions, 28 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.

(Translated)

Item 8: Welsh Conservatives Debate—Wales COVID-19 inquiry special purpose committee. For: 27, Against: 27, Abstain: 0

As there was an equality of votes, the Llywydd used her casting vote in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii).

Motion has been rejected

Division number 4033 Item 8. Welsh Conservatives Debate - Wales COVID-19 inquiry special purpose committee

Aye: 27 MSs

No: 27 MSs

Aye: A-Z by last name

Absent: 6 MSs

Absent: A-Z by last name

Photo of Elin Jones Elin Jones Plaid Cymru 6:47, 30 November 2022

(Translated)

That concludes voting for today.

Photo of Alun Davies Alun Davies Labour

Presiding Officer, I did ask during the debate on that—

Photo of Alun Davies Alun Davies Labour

Oh, come on. We've got to know why the Government can't table business.

Photo of Elin Jones Elin Jones Plaid Cymru

Can I confirm to the Member, I think I did pick up on the fact that he referred to the fact that the Government was not able to table amendments on Friday afternoon of last week to the debate on the COVID inquiry? It has been a subject of correspondence between me and the First Minister, and I'm happy to publish that correspondence so that all Members are aware of the reason the amendments, as proposed by the Government, were not in order for that debate.FootnoteLink

Photo of Elin Jones Elin Jones Plaid Cymru

Okay. And you're not getting, Alun Davies, just to put you on a warning, two points of order in every single Plenary meeting from now on, right. So, that's not setting a precedent.

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