11. What discussions has the Cabinet Secretary had with Natural Resources Wales regarding Aberthaw power station since 1 January 2017? OAQ(5)0089(ERA) [W]

Thank you. As the environmental regulator of Aberthaw, Natural Resources Wales is responsible for reducing the nitrogen oxides emission limit in Aberthaw’s environmental permit, in line with the court judgment. Aberthaw must then comply with the revised limit. My officials will continue to monitor the progress of NRW and RWE towards compliance.

I thank the Cabinet Secretary for her reply, which didn’t actually specify what discussions she’s had. But, within the last hour, I think all Assembly Members have had a letter from the Cabinet Secretary, setting out what’s happened recently with Aberthaw. I note, from that letter, that Natural Resources Wales did not write to RWE, who operate this plant, until 6 January this year, although the court case was last September. They didn’t write to ask about permit variations until 6 January—incidentally, after I’d put in freedom of information requests asking what on earth was happening. That permit regulation needs to bring the nitrogen oxide emissions at Aberthaw below the 500 mg/cu m ceiling value, which the court judgment put in. They are still—according to your letter to Assembly Members—breaking that four months later than the European Court of Justice ruling. You say that it’s Natural Resources Wales that is responsible for permitting this, but clearly they haven’t pulled their finger out to do anything about it. This reflects very badly on us as a nation and yourselves as the Government.

The letter was issued to Assembly Members. I think it was David Melding who made a request of the First Minister during First Minister’s questions last week. As Simon Thomas said, it just set out the limits throughout. There has been a fall, but you’re right that further work is going to be required to ensure that Aberthaw is able to operate before the 500 mg/cu m emissions ceiling. There have been a significant amount of discussions between my officials and NRW, and I’ve asked my officials to monitor the situation closely.

The crucial thing here, Cabinet Secretary, is that this power station will now keep generating power into the medium term to meet peak demand. So, it’s part of the power-generating infrastructure and people must be reassured that these high standards—or higher standards, anyway—are followed as a matter of course, and don’t just suddenly come into the public domain when particular Assembly Members put pressure on the Welsh Government.

I absolutely agree, and I do want to assure Members that I’ve been having discussions. I’ve met with RWE, I’ve met with Aberthaw, I’ve met with my colleague Jane Hutt in relation to this, and I have ensured that officials are monitoring the situation very carefully.

I thank the Cabinet Secretary.