Results 61–80 of 739 for (in the 'Commons debates' OR in the 'Westminster Hall debates' OR in the 'Lords debates' OR in the 'Northern Ireland Assembly debates') speaker:Adam Holloway

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: I would love to give way to my hon. Friend, although I am not so sure about the others.

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: I completely agree. There is no solution if it adds to the problems faced by the people of Dartford and Thurrock. I shall come back to that.

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: Absolutely—100%. A few months ago, I had Mr Potts of the Highways Agency in my office, and I got quite heated with him. I got him to admit that, however many crossings he built to the east of the existing crossing, he would at some point have to come back and fix the M25 at Dartford. It is possible to fix the problems of the M25 only if they are fixed at Dartford. Let me explain why....

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: I thank my hon. Friend for that. I am about to provide an even longer list of people who are in favour of option C, so I shall answer his question then.

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: Yes. There is only one real option now— option C—but I think that if option A were accepted that should be the case, and, indeed, the same would apply to any of the other options, historically.

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: Yes, once more.

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: Again, I completely agree with my hon. Friend. I also think that it is crazy for all those freight trains to offload at Ashford when they could easily trundle on for another two hours and be well north of the affected area.

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: Of course. I thank my hon. Friends for making my speech for me.

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: I am really enjoying agreeing with everyone so far this evening. As I have said, for many years no one really thought that option B, C, D or E would be chosen. I remember one of my friends, who was the roads Minister at the time, saying, “Don’t worry; it will be option A, another bridge at Dartford.” I have every sympathy with my hon. Friend the Member for Dartford, and I...

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: I think that the solution lies in any number of measures, but there certainly needs to be further capacity. I agree that we cannot try to squeeze more and more stuff into that collision of long-range national, regional and local traffic. I think that we need to seriously revisit the idea of taking Dartford and Thurrock out of the equation. I have spoken to tunnelling experts who say that that...

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker; of course you are right and I am sure you have also experienced the nightmare at the Dartford crossing. For argument’s sake, let us say that the national long-range through-traffic going from the area around Gatwick, along the M25 and then up to the north of England without going anywhere near the exits at Dartford and Thurrock is 40%. If we could...

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: My hon. Friend is absolutely right. He and I have been, not always successfully, driving around southern England trying to persuade people that what we need is a long tunnel rather than this road to nowhere. The other day I again had a couple of people from Highways England in my house and we were talking about this. I mentioned that 40% of traffic is long-range traffic, and the guy from...

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: As I have suggested, I have very little confidence in Highways England’s numbers, and that was underlined for me by the meeting a couple of weeks ago where the guy said with a straight face that 12% of the traffic was through-traffic. I will come on to this in a minute, but the benefit-cost ratios are almost changed to fit whatever crisis Highways England has been having at a particular...

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: I will say more about my constituents in a moment. One reason that I read out the list is that this could become yet another great disconnect between the political and business classes and the ordinary people—not that we need much reminding of such things, given recent events in the world. The message has not yet got out to the users of the M25, but at some point it will. They are the...

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: Thank you for helping me out there. I did not actually know that. That is very useful. I am looking around the Chamber—[Interruption.] Sometimes, the public do not appreciate that many of the people who are not here are actually working quite hard elsewhere. The reality is that the Chamber is virtually empty and that all but one or two Members here have a personal interest in this case....

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: It is true, but they are not experts on roads. Ministers must listen to the people who pass for experts—in this case, Highways England.

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: Absolutely. One thing that I have noted in my time here is that we are told that certain things must happen or cannot happen. Back in about 2007, when we again had appalling traffic at Dartford, I remember writing on the behalf of constituents to say that it was crazy that people have to pay money at the toll and asking why we could not have a free-flow system. We were told back then—I...

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: I will give way in a moment. I fear that something has happened with the political classes in these places. It has almost become a sort of truism: it is quite hard to go anywhere now. I do not know whether I am allowed to ask a question to someone who is about to intervene on me, but I will throw this out there: I would have thought that, if this were possible, my hon. Friend would love to...

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Tell that to your constituents in 10 years’ time, when the problem at Dartford has not been ameliorated by a long tunnel to the east of Gravesend. Again, I am not an expert, but I think you are thinking in the old way and you are still—

Technical and Further Education Bill: M25: Dartford (14 Nov 2016)

Adam Holloway: I am sure you are not thinking in the old way, Madam Deputy Speaker. My hon. Friend the Member for Dartford may be thinking in terms of six years of disaster, building new bridges and so on. I am not an expert on tunnelling, but I would have thought that, where a tunnel is being built, there is inconvenience from things such as ventilation shafts. However, where a tunnel is being started to...


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