Results 61–80 of 600 for (in the 'Commons debates' OR in the 'Westminster Hall debates' OR in the 'Lords debates' OR in the 'Northern Ireland Assembly debates') speaker:Claire Ward

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: In order to fall foul of the Bill, the person's words would have to be threatening and their behaviour intended to stir up hatred. If they did intend to stir up hatred, I believe, and the Government believe, that they should be guilty of the offence-that the threshold should have been reached. If the hon. Gentleman does not believe that, he is saying that it is acceptable for people to stir...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: I think that the hon. Gentleman is trying to find out whether I wish to have a religious and philosophical debate on the holy books. As a Roman Catholic, I can make reference to only one book. The reality is that if somebody uses the words that may be contained in a religious book with a clear intention to stir up hatred, they will fall foul of this offence. Someone may simply express a view...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: I am afraid the hon. Gentleman is not correct. A person would have to intend their words to be threatening and stir up hatred. That would have to be their intention, not the perception. Nothing in the Bill will prevent a preacher or follower of any religion from expressing their views, provided that they are not intending to stir up hatred. That is quite different. I want to make it...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: I am going to proceed, and then the hon. Gentleman will have a better opportunity to express his views. If we had set the bar for the offence too low or had not afforded sufficient protection for freedom of speech, I am quite sure that the Joint Committee on Human Rights and the Equality and Human Rights Commission would have been the first to say so. Both bodies have carefully examined the...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: On the contrary, this provision gives comfort to those who wish to incite hatred or to be threatening. They will believe that they can do those things if they are given this freedom of expression clause. It is completely unnecessary if they are not threatening or intending to stir up hatred. The hon. and learned Gentleman refers to a range of circumstances that have occurred in the past, but...

Bill Presented: Clause 45 — Meaning of "qualifying trigger" (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: The right hon. and learned Gentleman and I are clearly not going to agree on the issue, and unfortunately the right hon. Member for Maidstone and The Weald (Miss Widdecombe) and I are not going to agree either-whether it is on sets of circumstances, sexual infidelity or drunken owls. In the remaining time, I want to deal with some of the other points. The hon. Member for Cambridge referred...

Bill Presented: Clause 45 — Meaning of "qualifying trigger" (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: That is why we are ensuring that there is seamlessness between the subsections with the words "things said or done". That will ensure that sexual infidelity cannot be relied on in those circumstances. The hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield seemed to suggest that there is no support for the amendment, beyond some form of political correctness. I have to tell him that is quite contrary to...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: I beg to move, That this House disagrees with Lords amendment 59.

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: In inviting the House to reject the Lords amendments, we are seeking to complete unfinished business from the last Session. The House will recall that we introduced offences of inciting hatred on grounds of sexual orientation in the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill. During its passage, the other place passed an amendment that inserted what is now section 29JA into the Public Order Act...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: The House is not attacking free speech. It is clear that people retain their right to freedom of speech. The clause is unnecessary because the threshold of the offence is already set incredibly high. We introduced these new offences in the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 to protect a group in our society who are at times the victims of bigotry and hatred. We considered carefully how...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: There is nothing to prevent freedom of expression, and many of the incidents to which the hon. and learned Gentleman refers, as he well knows, fall under the Public Order Act 1986, in which there is a much lower threshold. Therefore, it is not the basis of the offence under discussion, which involves a high threshold and is exactly the reason why the so-called freedom of speech section is not...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: I wish to ensure that we deal with the legislation before us. What is before us is an opportunity to make sure that the will of this elected House, which has had an opportunity on three occasions to state that it does not believe that this so-called freedom of expression section is a necessary or wise addition to our legislation. We have got the balance right already. We looked at existing...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: And the hon. Gentleman will recall that the Government did not approve the extent of the Lords amendment on that occasion, either. We have set a very high threshold for the offences, which can be prosecuted only with the consent of the Attorney-General. The reason why the so-called freedom of expression section is not required is that the Attorney-General already has a duty under the Human...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: The right hon. Lady says that it is for the avoidance of doubt, but I am quite sure that in other circumstances, perhaps she, and certainly many of her right hon. and hon. Friends, would say that provisions should not be added to Bills-creating more legislation-simply for the avoidance of doubt. Indeed, I am well aware that they have criticised it when they have believed that it has happened...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: The legislation before us is not the appropriate place in which to put the police guidance to which my hon. Friend refers. Indeed, legislation is not necessarily the place for it. Guidance may well be the place to put it, and we will seek in due course to look at the guidance. The right hon. Lady said earlier from a sedentary position that the section purports to be for the avoidance of...

Bill Presented: Clause 61 — Hatred against persons on grounds of sexual orientation (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: I am afraid that I do not agree with the right hon. Lady. One does not need parliamentary privilege to express one's views. Freedom of expression is permitted, allowed and encouraged, the difference being when it is intended to incite hatred. There will be people who hold a religious or moral belief and have objections to homosexuality or to certain sexual practices. They are perfectly...

Bill Presented: Clause 45 — Meaning of "qualifying trigger" (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: The hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield (Mr. Grieve) has suggested that this is essentially about the Government trying to remove a responsibility from juries simply because juries would find it too difficult to deal with and because it is too difficult for judges to direct juries. I disagree that judges will not be able to direct juries. Judges are perfectly used to directing juries...

Bill Presented: Clause 45 — Meaning of "qualifying trigger" (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: The partial defence for loss of control exists on the basis that there will be certain sets of triggers-things that take place that cause the loss of control. Sexual infidelity is being disregarded as an acceptable trigger that can play into the loss of self-control. We believe that it is acceptable to do that precisely because we do not think that sexual infidelity, in itself, should be...

Bill Presented: Clause 45 — Meaning of "qualifying trigger" (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: I completely disagree with the hon. and learned Gentleman. The judge and indeed juries are quite capable of considering the information that is available to them as background information. We are saying that it is completely unacceptable that sexual infidelity in itself should be used as the trigger to allow the defence of loss of self-control to come into play. That is essentially what this...

Bill Presented: Clause 45 — Meaning of "qualifying trigger" (9 Nov 2009)

Claire Ward: The circumstances are quite different. Perhaps the right hon. Lady is suggesting that when somebody sees their husband or wife having an affair, that would be a partial defence for committing extreme violence-killing somebody. The right hon. Lady is clearly not in a position to be convinced, but the Government are clear that that cannot be an acceptable partial defence. Although many juries...


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