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Industrial Courts Bill. (11 Nov 1919)

Copy ordered, "of Amendments proposed to be moved by the Government on Consideration, as amended, of the Industrial Courts Bill."—[Sir Robert Home.]

Orders of the Day — Industrial Courts Bill. (17 Nov 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: ...enforce peace. When I read that phrase from the leaders of the Labour movement I rubbed my eyes in the reflection of the very modest and very simple provisions which I had put into the Industrial Courts Bill not to enforce peace, but to secure peace. It occurred to me that I could have paraphrased every article of this appeal which the Labour leaders made to their followers in this...

Oral Answers to Questions — Housing.: Unemployment Benefit. (18 Nov 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: No, Sir. I have no reason to suppose that Mr. Thomson, chairman of the Motherwell Court of Referees, performs his duties otherwise than impartially and efficiently.

Orders of the Day — Industrial Courts Bill: Clause 6. — (Continuance of 8 and 9 Geo. 5. c. 61.) (18 Nov 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: ...in previous parts of this Bill. It is perfectly plain that if you continue the whole Act you are going to have two inconsistent things in this Bill, because we set up first of all an Industrial Court of a voluntary character, which is to deal with the very same questions as the Interim Court at present deals with. Accordingly it would be impossible, as it seems to me, to consider my right...

Orders of the Day — Industrial Courts Bill: Clause 8. — (Definition of "Trade Dispute.") (18 Nov 1919)

Mr Robert Young: ...relation to "workmen and workmen." As far as the workmen and workmen are concerned, we are undertaking a very perilous procedure. You may get the men to assent to appearance before the Industrial Court, or to allow the question to be discussed at a Court of Inquiry, but immediately you commence to interfere in what appears to be trade union, business between workmen and workmen, then you...

Orders of the Day — Industrial Courts Bill: Clause 9. — (Rules as to Appearance by Counsel or Solicitor.) (18 Nov 1919)

Mr Robert Young: I beg to move, at the end, to insert the words "save with the consent of the parties to the dispute." The point I wish to put is that it is suggested that the Court should decide when legal assistance may be called in. It occurred to me that this may mean delay. The intention rather was this: We have now to come before the Court and ask them to allow legal aid, and so put us in a position to...

Orders of the Day — Industrial Courts Bill: New Clause. — (Awards of Interim Court of Arbitration.) (18 Nov 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: ...it not only preserves the legal efficacy of awards already given, but it will not have come into operation before the expiry of the Act, and it gives efficacy to cases which may be referred to the Court before the expiry of the Act. Therefore, the Amendment goes further than the right hon. Gentleman asks. On this point we should take along, with what I have suggested, my Amendment to the...

Orders of the Day — Industrial Courts Bill: New Clause. — (Laying of Orders and Rules before Parliament.) (18 Nov 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: ...in favour of it. But as this Bill now stands nobody can be affected by any rule which may be made. This Committee has taken out the compulsory powers with regard to calling on people to attend the Court and produce documents, and therefore these rules will only be the ordinary routine rules of procedure providing for the way in which people may go to the Court. The procedure there followed...

Orders of the Day — Industrial Courts Bill: New Clause. — (Provisions as to Agricultural Disputes.) (18 Nov 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: ...the point which the right hon. Gentleman has raised, but I do not think the matter could be dealt with in the shape in which he puts it before the Committee. It is quite outside the scope of any Court set up under this Bill to establish any rate. Indeed, so clear is that, that ray right hon. Friend and I have upon many occasions been in consultation with regard to the passing of another...

Orders of the Day — Clause 1. — (Constitution of Industrial Court.) (18 Nov 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: I beg to move, in Subsection (3), to leave out the words "after consultation with the Court." The circumstances under which I make this proposal are these. As this Subsection was originally drawn, the constitution of the Court was left to the action of the Minister. It was represented to me by an hon. Member that there was too much power in the hands of the Minister, and that the Court seemed...

Orders of the Day — Clause 4. — (Inquiry into Trade Disputes.) (18 Nov 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: I beg to move, at the end of Sub-section (4), to insert the words and enabling the Court to call for such documents as the Court may determine to be relevant to the subject-matter of the inquiry. In the course of the discussion in Committee two nights ago we found it impossible to arrange that Orders should be given for the production of documents, because that might involve the overloading...

Orders of the Day — Premium Bonds. (1 Dec 1919)

Mr Horatio Bottomley: ...1823 the country wanted money, and for war purposes, and they passed an Act which is known, colloquially, as the Lottery Act, that is the main Lottery Act from which I have heard learned counsel in Court and elsewhere quoting as if it were something which absolutely put the lid for all time on lotteries. It says, "An Act for granting to His Majesty a sum of money to be raised by...

Orders of the Day — Land Settlement (Scotland) Bill.: New Clause. — (Amendment of Section Seventeen of Act of 1911.) (2 Dec 1919)

Mr Robert Munro: ...is frequently not given. The Section contains no penalty if the landlord fails to intimate the vacancy. In such a case the Board of Agriculture may be quite unaware of the vacancy. The Land Court makes no order, and the landlord is not disentitled to relet without consent Under those circumstances it is not surprising to learn that, as a matter of fact, the small holdings which have...

Orders of the Day — Land Settlement (Scotland) Bill.: New Clause. — (Use of Land for Allotment.) (2 Dec 1919)

Mr Robert Munro: ...of the Clause and its phraseology. The effect would be to prevent the use for any other purpose of land once occupied as allotments, subject to the exceptions which are specified, till the Land Court had decided that that change was in the national or local public interest. That seems to me to be a very wide Amendment, for it covers all allotments, present or future, however established....

Orders of the Day — Land Settlement (Scotland) Bill.: New Clause. — (Erection and Maintenance of March Fences.) (2 Dec 1919)

Mr Robert McLaren: ...the fencing and done damage, and compensation has been given, and no difficulty has arisen. I think, after all, common sense will be exercised to prevent any difficulty; otherwise, we have the Land Court to step in and settle all the difficulties. I believe at the present time the Government provide fencing in order to fence off the cottars' places, and I do not think it would cost very...

Orders of the Day — Land Settlement (Scotland) Bill.: Clause 6 — (Duty of Board with Respect to Sale or Lease of Land.) (2 Dec 1919)

Mr Robert Munro: ...other provisions we have inserted in this Bill. I would suggest that, instead of the arbiter being appointed by the Reference Committee, the appeal in cases of dispute should be settled by the Land Court. Subject to that alteration, and the deletion of the words "or small farm" where they occur, I should be prepared to accept the Amendment.

Orders of the Day — Land Settlement (Scotland) Bill.: Clause 9. — (Amendment of Section 7 of Act of 1911.) (2 Dec 1919)

Mr Robert Munro: I will answer my hon. Friend's question at once. It is quite simple—the Land Court.

Oral Answers to Questions — Royal Dockyards: Clerical Workers (Bonuses). (3 Dec 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: ...workers, including certain clerical workers, by arbitration awards. These awards, as the hon. Member is aware, apply only to the parties to the arbitration. There is no power under the Industrial Courts Act by which the Government can direct that the various bonuses or advances shall apply to all clerical workers.

Oral Answers to Questions — Royal Dockyards: Moulders' Strike. (3 Dec 1919)

Sir Robert Horne: This strike, as the hon. and gallant Member will recollect, is a strike against an award of the Court of Arbitration, and began on 20th September. On the 10th October negotiations took place between the Engineering Employers' Federation and the societies, and a Memorandum of proposed terms of settlement was arrived at and signed by the federation and by the members of the executives of the...

Orders of the Day — Private Business.: GREENOCK IMPROVEMENT ORDER CONFIRMATION BILL [Lords] (by Order). (8 Dec 1919)

Mr Robert Munro: ...I regard as an abuse of Parliamentary procedure in order to bring indirect pressure to bear upon the promoters of this measure to secure their way. Whereas if he is right in his content on the Law Courts are open to him, and he will succeed and get costs against the unsuccessful party.


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