Keir Starmer: On internet connection records, as I have understood it, the purpose of getting the internet connection record in practically all cases is to bridge pretty swiftly into content using other lawful means.
Keir Starmer: From your perspective—the anti-fraud perspective—which of the powers in the Bill are most important to you and why?
Keir Starmer: Can I explore that?
Charles Walker: Thank you, both distinguished former Home Secretaries. I will not ask you to introduce yourselves because I think that would be a little impertinent of the Chair. Let us go straight to Keir Starmer.
Keir Starmer: To ask the Secretary of State for Education, if she will make it her policy to provide long-term funding for the UCL Centre for Holocaust Education.
Keir Starmer: I make the same point again: the clause is a good provision but appears to lack any enforcement mechanism or sanction, so if it could go into the basket of clauses that are being looked at in relation to sanction, I will be grateful.
Keir Starmer: I will, but on this particular occasion, I really think it is almost impossible to understand clause 13(3) without going into clause 14 and then, I am afraid, to a further provision, before coming back. You can only do so in passing reference.
Keir Starmer: Will the Minister confirm, just so we are clear what we are talking about, that that process, as envisaged in the code, is by way of modification and does not involve the double lock?
Keir Starmer: Perhaps the Minister will point me to an example of the ISC ever making public any criticism of or comment about the Secretary of State’s exercise of the powers in a way that could in any way be described seriously as politically accountable.
Keir Starmer: I beg to move amendment 62, in clause 21, page 17, line 4, leave out from “must” to “the following matters” in line 5 and insert “determine”. With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment 89, in clause 21, page 17, line 10, leave out subsection (2).
Keir Starmer: I have already indicated that I am not putting the amendment to the test. I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.
Keir Starmer: I stand only to give way.
Keir Starmer: It is probably my fault for not putting the question clearly enough. I accept that in relation to the target, but the warrant will cover others than the target. Can the Minister clarify what protection there is under this procedure for people in this country who, although they are not the target, might come within the warrant?
Keir Starmer: I am afraid I am not in a position to answer one way or the other. I do not know the background to that. I will make the points to the best of my ability in the time available, but I will also encourage them—
Keir Starmer: I am grateful.
Keir Starmer: I beg to move amendment 77, in clause 49, page 39, line 2, after “not”, insert “, without reasonable excuse,”
Keir Starmer: I beg to move amendment 65, in clause 50, page 40, line 27, leave out paragraph (7)(a).
Keir Starmer: It is.
Keir Starmer: I beg to move amendment 138, in clause 67, page 53, line 26, at end insert— ‘( ) the public interest in the protection of privacy and the integrity of personal data; and ( ) the public interest in the integrity of communications systems and computer networks.”
Keir Starmer: Will the Solicitor General give way?