Mr Russell Johnston: ...would be relatively unaffected both ways. Finally, may I urge the right hon. Gentleman not to follow the urgings of the right hon. Member for Stepney and to bear in mind that if Britain pursues a Gaullist attitude in Europe, it may appear to be a safeguarding of our interests but it would be to our detriment in the long term.
Mr Maurice Edelman: .... I do not believe that European defence has any credibility outside NATO. The dream of M. Jobert of some kind of European defence personality which has an existence without the United States is a Gaullist dream, with no kind of reality. When President de Gaulle withdrew from NATO he did not withdraw from the Atlantic alliance. He wanted all the benefits of the alliance but he did not...
Mr Anthony Crosland: ...busy dropping hints to every journalist who would listen that dramatic new help for the young home buyer was on the way. This was so important that the announcement was reserved for the great Gaullist occasion of the Prime Minister's stage 3 Press conference. It was so important that the building societies, which were supposed to operate the scheme, could not be consulted in advance,...
Mr Jeremy Thorpe: ...until there is democratic control of the institutions in Europe. In his whole attitude towards the strengthening of the community the Prime Minister is, if I may paraphrase Lord Butler, the best Gaullist we have. In his attitude towards Europe he is a Gaullist, and it is hardly surprising that he and the French President so often find themselves in accord. The Labour Party constantly...
Mr Christopher Woodhouse: ...independence which this force would confer upon them. It bears recollection that this decision was taken by a French Government before the return to power of General de Gaulle. This was not a Gaullist policy, although of course it was adopted by General de Gaulle, reinforced and expanded. It was net de Gaulle himself but it was the French people who reacted in this way. I recall a few...
Mr David Marquand: ..., that the ideology is no longer adequate. Secondly, it is necessary to stress that if we are to solve the problem of regional imbalances in the enlarged Community it is useless to adopt a Gaullist approach. The problem can be tackled effectively only by achieving massive transfers of resources from the wealthier regions of Europe to the poorer regions. These transfers must take place...
Mr John Mendelson: ...to the present political situation. That is changing all the time. We have recently seen a serious shift of Government in France. We know now that M. Messmer is there to produce a government of Gaullist orthodoxy, and the tone in which the French Government are speaking about our commitments is beginning to become more extreme again. It is no good my right hon. Friend the Member for...
Mr Michael English: ...remain in, we should set our mind to considering the implications of the undemocratic nature of the institutions themselves. It is, in my view a pity that the Government have taken the most extreme Gaullist line on this question of democracy inside Europe. It is a tremendous pity because we could have gone into Europe and could have made it quite plain that we are a democratic nation and...
Mr Neil Marten: .... 4.15 p.m. Let us look at what the French think about it. Dearly as I love the French—as the Committee knows, I am very pro-European and have within me, and am proud of it, French and probably Gaullist blood—I am suspicious about them over the question of sugar because I also love, perhaps more dearly, the Commonwealth, particularly the developing Commonwealth. Looking at the...
Mr Tony Benn: ...himself. There are those who oppose a referendum because they think that the British public would not accept entry. There are those who say that it would somehow magically reproduce Nazi Germany, Gaullist France or the stodgy Swiss. But a referendum is only a ballot box. It reflects the people and the values that go to the ballot box. A Danish referendum gives a Danish result. A Nazi...
Mr John Mendelson: ...the Executive." I invite the Lord Advocate and all those others with a great deal of knowledge of these matters to go to Paris now and see the power of the French Parliament. It has been consistent Gaullist policy for many years to destroy this power, and it has succeeded. It is no matter to a Gaullist Minister or a Gaullist member of the National Assembly to accept the kind of subsection...
Mr Russell Johnston: ...of an individual country to do this through the Council of Ministers and through the veto. There are two different approaches to the European community. One is via the Council of Ministers and a Gaullist approach, and the other is through a directly-elected European Parliament. European regional policy certainly has a long way to go in terms of development. However, I was surprised that...
Mr James Johnson: ...the permanent limit of twelve miles? That is what we ask him to do. If he will stand up and say that, he will become what many people would like him to be, if I may use this upside down metaphor, a Gaullist in our camp who will fight for his country's interests as much as de Gaulle has done in the past inside the Six for his people.
Mr Bill Baker: ...own marlin spike, because part of the agreement with the Six gives large stretches of the French coast around Brittany and Normandy a 12-mile limit. I do not think that such an area, which returns Gaullist M.P.s, would allow the French Government of the day, whether now or in 11 years' time, to go back on that. The French will want the agreement just as much as we, in all probability,...
Mr Jeremy Thorpe: ...in the concept of Europe from its inception at the time of the Schuman Plan in 1950. I do not have the same concept of Europe as the Prime Minister has. The Prime Minister's approach is the Gaullist approach. I believe in a federal Europe, and I want to see far greater political co-operation. Whether we are for or against Europe, we should not under-estimate what has happened. The main...
Mr Geoffrey Lloyd: ...procedures, he vastly over-exaggerated the importance of the particular party in power at the time when this country enters the European Community. After all, there are already Social Democrat and Gaullist parties within the Community. The right hon. Gentleman's Government, surely, could not have decided that they would go into the Community on the supposition that they would be in power...
Mr Emlyn Hooson: ...Europe. One need only count heads to see this trend. Consider, for example, the power of Herr Strauss in Germany. Those who have read "The Grand Design" will know his thoughts on this subject. The Gaullist Party in France is another example of this, as are the arguments advanced in this House to the effect that basically the political argument for Europe is a question of guns and money....
Mr James Johnson: ...me in some indefinable way when I am told that my people should pay taxes to keep the "inefficient French peasants" in business. For good measure I am sometimes told that these are "conservative Gaullist" peasants, which gives me another niggle. For years I have campaigned for overseas aid to African and other developing nations. I have listened also to Dr. Mansholt speaking at...
Mr John Biffen: ...to make. I come, then, to the speech of my hon. Friend the Member for St. Ives (Mr. Nott). I fear that he is showing signs of political infection. The virus of Powell-ism is spreading. He sounded Gaullist in his views of Europe as well as championing monetary controls and a floating exchange rate. My hon. Friend is treading in dangerous territory. It is most encouraging. There was a...
Sir Brandon Rhys Williams: ...our interest in questions of taxation, are we to pass to Great George Street or Somerset House the power to decide what happens—or, even worse, to the Commission in Brussels? I am an unashamed Gaullist in these matters. If we are content year by year with documents as sketchy and incomplete as this one, interesting though it is, we shall lose all credibility as legislators, and we shall...
