Results 1221–1239 of 1239 for speaker:Sir Ian Percival

OLDHAM CORPORATION BILL [Lords] (By Order) (28 Jun 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: Oldham now wants to repay this debenture stock, but wants to redeem it, otherwise than at par and otherwise than in accordance with the terms on which it was issued; that is to say, otherwise than by agreement. The reason why it needs these powers is because it could not do it otherwise. It amounts, in effect, to compulsory purchase of this debenture stock and to converting it into gilt-edged...

OLDHAM CORPORATION BILL [Lords] (By Order) (28 Jun 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: If the hon. Gentleman is suggesting that the shareholders of the company could or should pass an extraordinary resolution to deprive the debenture holders of their rights, then, like the hon. Member for Westhoughton sitting next to him, he and I are not on the same wavelength at all.

OLDHAM CORPORATION BILL [Lords] (By Order) (28 Jun 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: To avoid any possible controversy on the point, I say that they have in practice no alternative but either to redeem it at par or to reach agreement with the debenture holders. If any one of them came to this House and said, "We should like power to convert into gilt-edged", I think they would be laughed out. As at present advised, I see no reason to treat this local authority, or for that...

OLDHAM CORPORATION BILL [Lords] (By Order) (28 Jun 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: It all depends from which side one approaches the matter. The hon. Gentleman has rather anticipated me by referring to "injustice". I have not used the word yet, but I shall do so before I finish. I was simply pointing out that I think it would have been very much more fair and would have given the House a far more complete picture of the matter if this reason, which must be one of the...

OLDHAM CORPORATION BILL [Lords] (By Order) (28 Jun 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: I hear what the hon. Gentleman says and I will proceed with my argument. No doubt he will pay me the compliment of accepting that, whether he agrees with me or not, my convictions are as sincere as his. I shall listen to what he has to say. My constituents, and a number of other small holders, have complained about this proposal, as is evidenced by some of my hon. Friends. Some of the big...

OLDHAM CORPORATION BILL [Lords] (By Order) (28 Jun 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: The hon. Gentleman will forgive me if I resist the temptation to be turned aside by that red herring. My objection to this is quite a limited one; it is whether a local authority—and whether Oldham should be the first—should have the power to do this kind of thing whether the debenture holders agree or not. The debenture holders find themselves in this position because of the powers given...

OLDHAM CORPORATION BILL [Lords] (By Order) (28 Jun 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: Will the hon. Member say whether he personally considers that the redemption of the Halifax market stock, the nature of which I have described, is in any way similar to redeeming debenture stock to which the public is invited to subscribe?

OLDHAM CORPORATION BILL [Lords] (By Order) (28 Jun 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: I have looked at the Oldham Inprovement Act of 1880. Some parts might have been connected with the market, but the enabling section enabled the Corporation to borrow up to £370,000 for the purposes and for the objects which were stated, one of which was for building a town hall. Only a small part was for market purposes. It was entirely different from this case.

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: I beg to move, in page 8, line 20, to leave out "the northern corner of the bathing lake at Southport at SD33151797" and to insert "SD37752180". I appreciate that this is rather a come down from the important matters that have been discussed earlier this morning. It is a point of detail, but, nevertheless, I hope that I may have the indulgence of the House, because I hope to persuade hon....

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: I am told that it is Skegness. That is the only other one. These things together led me to believe that the proposed Amendments would clearly exclude Southport, and that optimism was strengthened when my hon. Friend was kind enough to write me a letter, which I will not quote, in which it appeared to me that he had the same idea as I had at that time. That is not intended as a criticism,...

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: I quite accept what my hon. Friend says, and I mention it only because it is a point of detail which I have found out from my own personal investigations, and I feel that whatever happens to my Amendment, my hon. Friend might like to take the opportunity of putting that matter right at a later stage. What surprised me was to find, when the Amendments were published, that half of Southport...

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: If my hon. Friend will bear with me, that aspect of the matter was on the tip of my tongue. I have dealt with the tide going down. I was about to say what happens when the water comes back. This has not escaped me and I have also investigated it. By means of float tests and observation of the water—the former are the most useful—it is found that when the water comes up, if the wind is in...

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: The former bathing lake, which, on an old map, would still be shown as the bathing lake, is at the end of the line marked on my map. Even this copy, however, which is a fairly recent one, is now out of date, because a new sea wall has been built which takes out all this area of land. This is the kind of process which is going on all the time and has been going on all through this century....

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: I submit that those arguments, allied to the principle on which I have said I have acted and which, I hope, is acceptable to the House, are conclusive. I do not propose to occupy the time of the House in endeavouring to anticipate what replies hon. Members may make. I understand that, as mover of the Amendment, I may speak again should anything be said which calls for a reply. I ought,...

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: That is not coincidence. I put it there deliberately for that reason, and I have no hesitation in saying so.

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: Before my hon. Friend leaves that point, I should point out what I think is not appreciated by many hon. Members, namely, that it is not right to say that existing outlets are not at all affected. What are affected are new outlets or new discharges, and a new discharge can be a new discharge from an existing outlet, which few hon. Members in the House realise. This means that, without any...

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: I am obliged to all my hon. Friends for the views which they have expressed, to which I assure them, I have given careful consideration. I hope that they will not think I am discourteous if I say that none was a surprise or new to me. In preparing my case, I endeavoured to foresee what could be said on the other side, because I hope that I can fairly say that, although I now hold a firm...

Orders of the Day — Clean Rivers (Estuaries and Tidal Waters) Bill ( 1 Apr 1960)

Sir Ian Percival: May I add my congratulations to my hon. Friend the Member for Harrogate (Mr. Ramsden) and my support to the Third Reading of the Bill? In spite of what I have been saying this morning, I have always supported the principle of the Bill, and feel I must make that clear again. I congratulate my hon. Friend on introducing and piloting the Bill through its various stages, and I wish success to...

Telephone Tapping (16 Dec 1959)

Sir Ian Percival: Mr. Deputy-Speaker, it is with great diffidence that I rise to speak on so important and serious a subject, and as I have no reasonable prospect of disguising my nervousness I feel it better to confess it at the outset and seek the indulgence of the House. I understand that it is traditional when one first addresses this House, which I am conscious is a great honour as well as a...


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