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Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) (Continued) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: My Lords, I have one more technical question to ask the Minister; I have given him notice of it. His Amendment 14E starts by saying: “Guidance issued under subsection (1) takes effect on whatever day the Secretary of State appoints”— so it appears to start by saying that this is solely about the timing of when the guidance should be brought into effect. But the second part of the...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) (Continued) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: I thank the Minister. I have to be honest with him and say that he has not addressed at all the nub of Amendment 14B, which requires the report first of all to concentrate on the cultural impact on universities, particularly the academic freedom and mutual trust within them between staff, students and so on. He did not say a single word about that, which leaves me concerned, because either he...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) (Continued) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: I have to disagree with the Minister. It seems to me extraordinary to argue that we cannot afford to do our homework, so let us just make this law and see what happens. Because that is what he is saying. Also, it is no good talking about guidance without realising that, once it is brought into force, it has the effect of law; it becomes enforceable, even unto the point—the Joint Committee...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) (Continued) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: I am grateful for that, but I want to say a word on the second amendment. Most of the debate has been around the need to inquire of the students themselves how they view the consequences of the guidance becoming law. The Minister did not make reference to that. Does he agree in principle that universities, including the students, should be consultees prior to the guidance being finalised and...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) (Continued) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: That is a very fair way of wrapping this up, but just to make this clear, the Minister did not refer, in responding to the amendment, to the universities as such. All that he said was concentrated on the young people at the university. However, on the basis that he will have an open mind when looking at this—because it will cost the Government nothing to make the universities consultees,...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) (Continued) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: The concern we have is that an assessment of their costs has not been made. As I said in moving the amendment, the more that the universities and colleges have thought about this—and many of them have still not got the draft guidance—the more they realise that this is imposing a very considerable bureaucratic burden which they will have to pay for.

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) (Continued) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 14B, and my learned—not my learned—

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) (Continued) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: My—admirable and brilliant—noble friend Lady Williams is a co-signatory to that amendment and is going to speak to Amendment 14D. My noble friend Lord Norton of Louth, who unfortunately cannot be here, and the noble Viscount, Lord Hanworth, who is indeed here, also have their names to these amendments. First, I thank the Minister again for the way in which he has tried to deal with the...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: I am sorry to interrupt the Minister. Could it not be that the universities simply thought that the guidance was—I will not use too strong a word—hopeless and misguided?

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: My Lords, I will briefly remark on the labyrinthine complexity of the law in relation to education and universities as it is already. I have a terrible anxiety that this Bill—well intentioned as it may be—along with the guidance, will add a dimension of further complexity that will be counterproductive to a quite significant degree. It is going to make the task of the authorities in...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill — Report (2nd Day) ( 4 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: I cannot resist asking: how is this going to go down with schoolmasters and the rest?

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill: Report (1st Day) ( 2 Feb 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: Before the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick, sits down, perhaps I may say that I always listen immensely carefully to what he says, by dint of his experience, but I am not fully clear why he is adamantly against the Bill as a whole. I understand that it is largely due to its potential counterproductivity, as he sees it. However, I am not clear why he is in favour of this set of...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill: Committee (3rd Day) (28 Jan 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: My Lords, I thank my noble friend the Minister, but I am afraid that I shall be even less complimentary than my co-signatory to the amendment, the noble Lord, Lord Hannay. I believe that my noble friend gave us no new facts at all. We have had extraordinarily little by way of evidence or factual backing for this. For example, his letter, which he put in the Library yesterday, refers to two...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill: Committee (3rd Day) (28 Jan 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: I thank my noble friend for that but I have to disagree with him. He talks about a small addition to the present state of affairs. The universities are telling us loud and clear that it is not a small addition; it is a massive new addition. Before we make this decision, some attempt has to be made to find out the cost to government. I think that even the present voluntary panels in the...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill: Committee (3rd Day) (28 Jan 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: My Lords, Amendments 115A, 118A and 123 stand in the names of the noble Viscount, Lord Hanworth, who is a professor at the University of Leicester, the noble Lord, Lord Hannay of Chiswick, who is pro-chancellor of Birmingham University, the noble Lord, Lord Norton of Louth, who is a professor at the University of Hull, and has had to go back at this hour in order to meet his students in the...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill: Committee (3rd Day) (28 Jan 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: My Lords, the Minister made a remark earlier that went to the highly contentious issue which at least half a dozen noble Lords have raised relating to paragraph 66 of the guidance. It says—I quote from the letter that the Minister wrote yesterday—that, “we note the difficulties of requiring all visiting speakers to submit their presentations in advance, and … we will be making changes...

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill: Committee (3rd Day) (28 Jan 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend. I was under the impression that the noble Lord, Lord Bates, indicated in his letter dated 27 January that the Government would now withdraw paragraph 66 from the proposed guidance. It might save an awful lot of consideration in this Chamber if that is indeed the case.

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill: Committee (3rd Day) (28 Jan 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: The Minister just, for the second time during his winding up, referred to the phrase “having due regard” in Clause 21 of Part 5 as if to placate those who are concerned by the directions which are still out for consultation. Is the reality not that Clause 25 gives the Secretary of State power to make directions with regard to any of these matters and then to follow that up by a mandatory...

Alcohol Consumption — Question (27 Jan 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: My Lords—

Alcohol Consumption — Question (27 Jan 2015)

Lord Phillips of Sudbury: Will my noble friend assure the House that the Government will continue to resist the temptation of yet more legislation in this area and rely on persuasion? Secondly, can she tell us whether the existing law is being enforced? My suspicion is that it is extremely patchy.


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