Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, my own preference is to use chairman or chairwoman but not chair because that conjures up visions of woodworm.
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 67B: Clause 57, page 29, line 44, at end insert-- ("( ) the effectiveness of district policing partnerships in the carrying out of their functions; ( ) the level of public satisfaction with the performance of individual district policing partnerships").
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, reading the two subsections, I am confirmed in my mind that today and on earlier occasions the ground has effectively been covered. If we have not made headway, we have obtained clarification and we do not propose to move the amendment.
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 67C: Clause 60, page 31, line 21, at end insert-- ("(1A) No inquiry shall be caused under subsection (1) if it relates to the conduct of a member of the police force which took more than the prescribed period before the date on which a report under section 59 was submitted to the board. (1B) The prescribed period shall be the prescribed...
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, the comments I made in respect of the previous amendment apply to this one. Many of the points which we have put before the House have been met. In the light of that and certain private discussions, we do not propose to move the amendment.
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, I must admit that I probably move in lower social circles than the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Clifton. Perhaps for that reason, and as a Member of Parliament for getting on for 27 years, I have lost count of the number of occasions when I have been approached by young Catholics to provide a supporting reference for their applications to join the RUC. Parents would say, "Eammon wants...
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, my colleagues and I have added our names to some of the subsequent amendments which have been tabled in this grouping. However, for the moment, we do not wish to speak to them because some developments have taken place since noble Lords debated this matter in Committee. For that reason, we do not propose to move these amendments.
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 48: Clause 51, page 26, line 9, leave out subsection (2).
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, it is not our intention to move Amendments Nos. 48 and 49.
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 51: Clause 51, page 26, line 16, leave out subsection (4).
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, I have even better news for the Minister. We do not intend to move Amendments Nos. 51 to 55, nor the Minister's favourite, Amendment No. 56.
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: moved Amendment No. 30: Clause 22, page 11, line 15, at end insert ("and shall consult any other bodies established pursuant to section 23(2)").
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, Amendments Nos. 30 and 30A aim to strengthen the consultative process. In particular, Amendment No. 30 compels consultation with other organic community bodies in the style of community police liaison committees (CPLCs) which can and, it is hoped, will continue to operate. Amendment No. 30 may not be entirely perfect, but I believe that its intention is reasonable and modest....
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for those explanations. She has provided considerable help as to the giving of guidance to people involved at different levels. I believe that we should experiment and see how it works. In the meantime, I beg leave to withdraw Amendment No. 30.
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: moved Amendment No. 7: Clause 6, page 4, line 18, after ("may") insert (", for the purpose of its functions,").
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: It is vital to protect the operational independence of the Chief Constable in all his decisions. In the current policing debate, the Government have placed great emphasis on considering the needs of the community--or communities, if one prefers it that way--that are to be served and seeking to ensure a policing service that is consensus-based and enjoys the support and confidence of the...
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Baroness for the enlightenment that she has provided. However, as she herself said, this is a very complex matter. Although I entirely accept most of what she said, I have a feeling that the issues are not quite clearly understood by the various elements involved in these matters. I shall certainly study carefully in Hansard what the noble Baroness...
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: Amendment No. 19 which stands in my name and that of others states: "Page 1, line 16, after ('Minister') insert ('or Junior Minister'). I listened carefully to what the Minister has just said. However, new Section 19A(c) refers, at line 15 of page 1, in a slightly different context to the words, "be appointed as a junior Minister". It seems logical to read line 15 in conjunction with line...
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: As someone who sat through many debates in the other place as far back as the home rule and devolution for Scotland debates in the time of the Callaghan government, it is true that there has never been a clear resolution of the difficulty of what he rightly calls two classes of member. But at least in one way or another they are paying taxation to the same Treasury. But in this Bill, without...
Lord Molyneaux of Killead: I rise briefly to support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Lamont of Lerwick. With his vast Treasury experience, I am sure that he will have sounded out the Exchequers in both capitals and that they will be only too willing to finance this added expenditure. They may even be able to take on board the suggestion made by the noble Viscount, Lord Cranborne. It may involve a modest...
