Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, I am slightly troubled by some of the remarks made by the Home Secretary, to be perfectly frank. There is a phrase, “performative utterance”. By creating a space in which it is possible to doubt and to sow that doubt you are therefore making it discomforting for those who might seek asylum in this country and all the good things which we have stated. I would like to believe that...
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, I realise that the hour is late and I do not intend to detain your Lordships long. I speak to Amendment 48. It is a cross-party amendment and this morning, when I began to consider this, I typed up some notes, which I have—but I do not have my glasses and I typed in a font far too small. I feel I am now a speaking metaphor for what the amendment represents. We have to be careful...
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, I preface my remarks to the hearty few who are left behind by saying that the Marshalled List is fiddly today, so bear with me if I go off the rails. The noble Baroness, Lady Harris of Richmond, will be taking part remotely. I remind the Committee that, unless they are leading a group, remote speakers speak first after the mover of the lead amendment in a group and may therefore...
Lord Duncan of Springbank: I believe I first have to say, “The Question is that this Motion be agreed to”. Actually, the noble Lord is right—he should come in now.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, the time allowed for this Question has now elapsed.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is taking part remotely.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, I will pick up on a point from the noble Baroness, Lady Blackstone. It is estimated that only one in six manage to secure tradesmen qualified to install under the green grant scheme, which is an extraordinarily low figure. How do we know that it will improve? What measures are the Government bringing in to improve it, and how will we measure that?
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, the time allowed for this Statement has now elapsed. I suggest that we take a moment to shuffle the Benches before we continue.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, the second beaming Baroness is the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, the final remote participant is the noble Baroness, Lady Masham of Ilton.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: I remind the House that we have three noble Baronesses beaming in. The first is the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, the time allowed for this Question has now elapsed.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, the time allowed for this Question has now elapsed. I understand that the Whip wishes to make a point.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, I am aware that we are without the Minister, so shall we have a brief pause while he is rustled up? That will allow some people to escape the Room and, hopefully, we can track down the Minister. We are all just too efficient—that is why it has happened.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: I will take the blame for that. I should have said moved formally and that would have encouraged the noble Lord, Lord Greenhalgh, to say “moved formally”. I will accept the admonition on that point. The noble Lord has saved the House some considerable time because I can see the page of that speech now fluttering in the wind.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: Let us take a moment or two to clear the Chamber before we move onto the next piece of business.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, I have listened to many remarks this evening. There are three things we must remember. First, this approach was brought in during a time of necessity and it has worked. Not only has it worked but it has worked well. It has worked well for vulnerable groups; it has worked well for the wider community, and we should not lose sight of that fact. Secondly, as we consider what we must do...
Lord Duncan of Springbank: My Lords, the time allowed for this Question is now up and I will allow a moment or two to clear the Chamber for those who want to escape before the next business takes place.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: I now call the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton.
Lord Duncan of Springbank: I shall not call Amendment 105, as it has been pre-empted by Amendment 103. Amendment 105 not moved.