Results 1–20 of 362 for (in the 'Commons debates' OR in the 'Westminster Hall debates' OR in the 'Lords debates' OR in the 'Northern Ireland Assembly debates') speaker:Matthew Pennycook

Exiting the European Union: Customs Arrangements (14 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: The media inevitably focused on the personalities involved in the Cabinet row over a customs backstop last week, but it is the detail of that policy that really matters, so I ask the Minister a very simple question: are we to take from the fact that the Secretary of State and his other two colleagues are still in post that the Government’s position is not to accept, under any...

Exiting the European Union: Customs Arrangements (14 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: Not really an answer, Mr Speaker. Last week’s backstop paper only dealt with customs, but we know that a solution to the Irish border issue requires agreement on far more than that; it requires full regulatory alignment on goods to facilitate all aspects of north-south co-operation. Does the Minister accept that, and will the Government be making the case for full regulatory alignment...

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I will tell my hon. Friend how we will explain it to them. We will say that their lordships asked us to consider and vote on whether, in the event that a majority of Members of this House do not approve the deal, we should take control of the situation and shape how the Executive then proceed. I think they would support that.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I am going to make some progress. There has been a considerable amount of debate over the past 16 months about what is meant by a “meaningful” vote. Any member of the public watching our proceedings today will struggle to understand how a vote on the draft withdrawal agreement that simply takes the form of “take it or leave it” could in any sense be genuinely...

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I will give way one final time.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I disagree with the hon. Gentleman. Crashing out of the European Union without a deal is exactly what this amendment is designed to prevent. [Interruption.] Yes, it is.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I said that that was the last intervention; I am not giving way again. I want to turn briefly to the amendment tabled yesterday evening by the right hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield. We welcome it as a significant improvement on the Government’s amendment in lieu. His amendment is a clear acknowledgment that the Government’s amendment is deficient, that there is a need to...

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I am not going to give way; I am going to conclude. The question of what form parliamentary approval of the withdrawal agreement takes is one of the most significant decisions this House will have to take. To be meaningful, a vote cannot simply take the form of a binary “take it or leave it” choice. It must provide a means by which Parliament can indicate to the Government that it...

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I am not going to give way at this stage. The amendments in this group are, at their core, about what we, as hon. and right hon. Members, believe the role of Parliament should be in the Brexit process. They are about ensuring that Parliament plays an active role in shaping our country’s future, rather than accepting that the House of Commons is to be little more than a spectator and a...

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: My hon. Friend makes a good point. There is nothing more damaging. As the Secretary of State himself said, the EU monitors with great interest developments in this House and what is said across the country. It sees the open warfare and disagreement in the Cabinet, and the Foreign Secretary continually undermining the Prime Minister’s approach.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I am just going to make some progress. Lords amendment 19 is of critical importance. In many ways, it is the most important amendment that we will consider over the 12 hours allotted. Before I explain why and set out the reasons why we agree with Lords amendment 19 and disagree with the Government’s amendment (a) in lieu, it is worth taking a little time to remind the House how we...

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: That is absolutely right, and I thank my hon. Friend for that point.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I have to disagree with my right hon. Friend’s point. I did not say that there were no lordships that do not intend to block Brexit, just as there are hon. Members in this House for whom that is the intention. But the aim of the Lords amendments, as they are designated, is not to frustrate Brexit. There is no majority in this House for overturning the referendum result, as my right hon....

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I am happy to clarify that.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: Thank you, Mr Speaker. As I was saying, the choice that faces us under the Government’s amendment is between the draft withdrawal agreement, even if it is found wanting, and the hardest of departures—the most disorderly exit. Let us remind ourselves of what that would mean: legal chaos, significant damage to our economy, the erection of a hard border in Northern Ireland, and...

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: I am going to make a bit of progress. However, we also recognised at Committee stage that there were other requirements needed to ensure that Parliament has a meaningful vote, one of which is the need for a vote on a statute. That is why we supported amendment 7 in the name of the right hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield (Mr Grieve) and other hon. Members—an amendment that...

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: The hon. Gentleman makes the same point as many others have done, and I have dealt with it in saying that their lordships’ amendment is not about overturning the referendum result. [Interruption.] No, it is not—not at all. It is about giving Parliament a say in shaping the direction under one scenario that could well occur.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. The Commission cannot approve the deal on the European Union side until the European Parliament has given its consent, and if it does not give its consent, the Commission cannot move on and ratify.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972 (12 Jun 2018)

Matthew Pennycook: My hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is the choice that faces every hon. Member in the Chamber today when we come to vote on Lords amendment 19.


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