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Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill: Committee (2nd Day)(Continued) (18 May 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I also warmly welcome these amendments, which raise an important issue. I declare my interest as the vice-president of the Local Government Association, and as a member of Newcastle City Council and one-time leader of that council. When I was the council leader, I strongly appreciated the regular attendance of the chief constable at meetings of our executive and at annual meetings...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill: Committee (3rd Day) (24 May 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 212, which I hope has the status of a drafting amendment since its aim is simply to make sure that any enactment in relation to an acting commissioner includes this Act. It would have the additional benefit of bringing the wording in line with that of Amendment 31B, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, which I find extremely helpful because it imposes a...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Committee (3rd Day) (Continued) (24 May 2011)

Lord Shipley: What seems to be missing in this debate and in the Bill as a whole is a clear indication of the net cost of these proposals. There are existing costs both within a police force and within a police authority, but everything I hear and read suggests that the cost of police commissioners, with their offices and staff, will be significantly higher than the costs that we currently meet. There will...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill: Committee (4th Day) (6 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, in moving Amendment 81 I shall speak also to Amendments 88A and 89A. Essentially, these amendments are about a similar thing. They are about who consults whom and who co-operates with whom between the four bodies of the police and crime commissioners, the chief constables, the local police and crime panels and local authorities. Amendment 81 simply tries to make it clear that:...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill: Committee (4th Day) (6 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend the Minister for his response. I had not realised that this matter would be quite so complicated or contentious, because I said in moving the amendment that I thought that it was relatively straightforward. The amendment goes to the heart of something very important: the nature of scrutiny. The Minister said that scrutiny was of the commissioner by...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill: Committee (4th Day) (6 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: I can speak briefly on Amendments 234T onwards because they are all broadly the same. They are consequential amendments that relate to the fact that the description "police authority" has been changed to "local policing body", obviously because that is the basis of the Bill. The difficulty with this is that a police authority has a number of members whereas a local policing body will have...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill: Committee (4th Day) (6 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I wish to comment on the amendments in this group standing in the names of my noble friend Lady Hamwee and myself. Amendment 124 is a preliminary amendment relating to the situation in Wales. I will not speak about that situation, and the amendments relating to that, as my noble friend Lady Randerson will do so. I wish to raise a broader issue relating to the discussion we have had...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill: Committee (4th Day) (6 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: I thank the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, for his intervention, because that is absolutely true. Insufficient work has been done on the impact of having an elected mayor in some cities but not in a whole police area. Of course, the boundaries in London are coterminous, but they are not coterminous in the larger urban areas in the rest of England. That is a potential problem. I take the noble...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill: Committee (4th Day) (Continued) (6 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 193, 195 to 199, 200, 201 and 216. All are pretty brief. Amendments 193 and 194 would replace the word "necessarily" with "reasonably". This is about returning officers incurring costs for services and how those services are charged for. We are concerned that "necessarily" is complicated to define. A better and safer definition would be to use the word...

Localism Bill: Second Reading (7 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Bakewell, on defining for us what localism means. In debates like this it is helpful to have clear definitions of what we mean by words: from "localism", through "community" and "neighbourhoods" to "nimbyism". In the end, localism is about neighbourhoods and neighbourhood provision; and it is about the social inclusion and cohesion that derive...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Committee (5th Day) (Continued) (9 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I will say a word about Amendment 237A. It is one of the most important amendments that we have on the subject of licensing because of the principle it lays down.

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Committee (5th Day) (Continued) (9 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: I had not realised that it had been degrouped; I am sorry.

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Committee (5th Day) (Continued) (9 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I wish to put on record the support of my noble friend Lord Palmer for this amendment as he is not able to be here. We agree that this would be a very useful trial to undertake.

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Committee (5th Day) (Continued) (9 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: I shall speak first to Amendment 237A. It is an extremely important amendment because it defines not just the responsibility of a local council-here I declare an interest as a member of Newcastle City Council and as chair of the regional advisory group for public health in the north-east of England. The amendment builds in to the general duty of a licensing authority, which has a...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Committee (5th Day) (Continued) (9 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I have two comments to make on Amendment 237B and the related Amendments 238 and 239, in the name of my noble friend Lord Palmer of Childs Hill. There would be benefit in getting some clarification of what some definitions, such as "sufficiently close" and "adjoining area", actually mean. The Bill would be improved if we got that. First, on Amendment 237B, there is a problem in...

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill — Committee (5th Day) (Continued) (9 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I make the fairly obvious point that training of staff should apply before people take up a job. Training orders cannot just be applied for persistently selling alcohol to children. "Persistent" implies several occasions. Surely a training order should apply from the first offence. It is a small but important point that training should apply at the beginning of the process, not...

Barnett Formula — Question for Short Debate (15 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Barnett, for his continuing determination to bring an end to the distortions of the formula that bears his name. Years ago, it was understandable to introduce the formula, but ever since it has been right to want to get rid of it because it was always meant as a temporary solution to a specific problem. Not long ago, I was interviewed by BBC...

Localism Bill: Committee (1st Day) (20 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I support the amendment moved by my noble friend Lord Greaves because I believe that defining the principles and the culture of this Bill matters profoundly to our understanding of the debates that we will have on each of its parts. I declare my interest as a member of Newcastle City Council. The coalition agreement is helpful because it underpins where the Bill has come from. It...

Localism Bill — Committee (1st Day) (Continued) (20 Jun 2011)

Lord Shipley: My Lords, I support the amendment. It is important that we understand the important role that ITAs and PTEs have in those metropolitan areas. I come from one of those areas. We have always had joint board arrangements, of which fire and rescue has been one, and there have been others. The ITA, and the PTE as part of the ITA, needs to have similar powers at least to fire and rescue...


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