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Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 24 - The foreign power condition (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I think the intention that we are trying to get across is clear. I understand that the hon. Gentleman has a concern about how broad the scope is, so if he gives me a few moments, I will try to move on to that point. My view is that clause 24 forms a key concept that will determine the circumstances in which activities will come within the scope of the Bill or beyond it. Amendment 54 seeks to...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I am grateful for the right hon. Gentleman’s point of view. Clause 23 is primarily aimed at removing the risk and fear of prosecution from individuals within these organisations when undertaking their necessary authorised duties. Sir Alex Younger said: “Through this legislation and other measures, we can make sure that these risks are attached to the appropriate person or people or...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 24 - The foreign power condition (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: We have already spoken in some detail about the foreign power condition, but I will now specifically address that condition and the meaning of “foreign power”. In doing so, I hope to cover some residual concerns from our first day in Committee and some concerns that I have heard today. Throughout the Committee’s sittings so far, I have tried to demonstrate that I am listening and am...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I wanted to be very clear earlier—I wanted to make a point. I agree that the Government will give the ISC examples.

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: It has been a great pleasure to listen to the debate and Members’ speeches. I can feel the frustration in the room. I share that frustration, because I have been told by the intelligence services that we need clause 23 because the schedule it amends is having a damaging impact on critical operational activity aimed at keeping the UK safe. That is the reason why we need clause 23. I wish...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: What I am trying to say is that we want our UK intelligence services to be focused on keeping us safe and not to worry about whether or not they will be able to deal with a long court case on their actions. As things currently stand, the UK is—

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her intervention. I do not think I would be any good at giving anybody CPR. However, I understand the spirit in which she made the intervention and am grateful for that.

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I do not want to get distracted, because this is very serious. I will give way to you in a minute, Kevin; I want to get this point across. [Interruption.] Sorry—I will give way to the right hon. Member for North Durham in a moment. As the law stands, a member of staff acting in the proper exercise of their organisation’s functions would bear the burden of proving that they had acted...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: The problem is that the UK’s intelligence services are telling us that, every single day, their operatives are second-guessing themselves on operations to keep this nation safe. I believe what they are telling me. The provisions in section 47 of the Serious Crime Act mean that a person need only believe their activity will encourage or assist such an act, but they might also be reckless as...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: This is the clause that many of us have been looking forward to. I am not going to take interventions during my speech; I will set out the reasons why I believe the clause is correct, then I will listen carefully to speeches from hon. Members and then sum up. Collaboration with key international partners is a vital part of intelligence and national security work. We cannot maximise our...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I am not giving way. And they are regularly scrutinised by the Intelligence and Security Committee.

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 23 - Offences under Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: The right hon. Gentleman will have the opportunity to make his own speech, and I will listen. Let me also be clear that clause 23 will not enable activity by individuals who, acting outside the proper functions of their organisations, contribute to criminal activity by others or commit criminal offences themselves. We will retain the ability to prosecute anyone for other offences should their...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Schedule 3 - Detention Under Section 21 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I am grateful for the support for the amendments.

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Schedule 3 - Detention Under Section 21 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her support. I know that we will debate things later on. As I have said, we are currently in discussions about how we can securely provide further information to help to provide further clarity. I cannot say more than that.

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 22 - Border security (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: Under schedule 3 to the Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Act 2019, counter-terrorism police have the power to stop, question and, if necessary, detain and search individuals travelling through the UK border. As part of a schedule 3 examination, counter-terrorism police are able to retain protected materials by following a lengthy authorisation process. Protected materials include...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 22 - Border security (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I will take that idea away and consider it. We do not want to enable somebody at the border to say that something is confidential material so that the police cannot look at it for up to six weeks. That would just be the easiest defence. We are dealing with incredibly sophisticated experts and they will know what to say to ensure that the material will be held in abeyance. The Government are...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Clause 22 - Border security (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: My understanding is that the amendment of the authorisation safeguards to access confidential business material in schedule 3 brings it completely into line with other policing powers. It is not likely that access to confidential business material would be subject to a higher level of safeguarding where there is already consistent precedent set by PACE 1984, the IPA 2016 and schedule 7 to the...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Schedule 3 - Detention Under Section 21 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: As I have said, I am very interested in the amendment and am looking at possibly doing something along similar lines. I am trying to get the facts out. I heard what was said about the response on Second Reading so I am trying to be open and transparent and to put stuff on the record, in the official record of the sitting. I am doing the best that I can to be open, so that people are not...

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Schedule 3 - Detention Under Section 21 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I am always happy to take away the hon. Lady’s suggestions. My initial concern with the amendment is that, as drafted, it adds little value, just a statutory requirement for Her Majesty’s inspectorate to fulfil a role it is doing already. I note all the concerns of hon. Members, however—

Public Bill Committee: National Security Bill: Schedule 3 - Detention Under Section 21 (14 Jul 2022)

Stephen McPartland: I have given the right hon. Gentleman the blink and he still wants to intervene.


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