Mr Barry Henderson: I am grateful to my hon. and learned Friend for his reply. However, does not that suggest that the position of licensing courts may be slightly different from other activities in local government? Will he bear this in mind when future legislation is considered to bring them into line, including cases in which a councillor may live with someone who is not their spouse, in another town?
Mr Barry Henderson: rose—
Mr Barry Henderson: It is encouraging that a Bill of such complexity and sensitivity is not politically controversial. I was disappointed that the hon. Member for Monklands, West (Mr. Clarke), who generally presents the acceptable face of the Labour party, said that he would like the Bill to go further in respect of warrant sales but avoided spelling out how that should be done. Since 1968, the Scottish Law...
Mr Barry Henderson: I am grateful to my hon. and learned Friend for clarifying that. If those who are less well off are to get fair terms and conditions for credit sensibly taken, it is important that society as a whole does not allow people to get away with not paying the dues for which they make themselves liable. Therefore, we have to strike the proper balance between encouraging people to fulfil their...
Mr Barry Henderson: The hon. Gentleman says that it is a medical judgment. Let me give an example in which it is not. A bath chair—a relic from the turn of the century—might be regarded as a medical aid. Other hon. Members could give examples. Some medical aids or equipment may have no conceivable connection with anyone in a given household. Should they be exempt simply because they are medical aids? A house...
Mr Barry Henderson: People in trades such as shipwrighting must have their own tools because they are not provided by their employer. The Scottish Consumer Council also said that it was disappointed that the Bill did not allow instalment orders for arrears of rates and taxes to be made. I hope that my hon. and learned Friend will take note of what the hon. Member for Monklands, West said about that, as he is an...
Mr Barry Henderson: If people with overdrafts cannot work out what the interest payments on their accounts are at any given time, it ill behoves the banks to say, "You must pay so-and-so." The banks have been less than honourable in withholding from their customers information to which they are legitimately entitled. If anyone is asked to pay a bill, he should be given full and explicit details of why. I do not...
Mr Barry Henderson: I should not like to misunderstand the hon. Gentleman. What does he suggest as a final sanction?
Mr Barry Henderson: The hon. Gentleman must have seen advertised in the Fife Herald the open public meeting which was addressed in the corn exchange.
Mr Barry Henderson: I spoke about the Bill.
Mr Barry Henderson: I am well aware that I shall continue to be the Member of Parliament for Fife, North-East. I said that in no way was I going to be beaten by a Labour candidate. I could have gone on and said that I would not be beaten by an SNP candidate, a Liberal candidate, an SDP candidate, an Ecology candidate or any other.
Mr Barry Henderson: Mr. Speaker—[Interruption.]
Mr Barry Henderson: I am glad that not only you, Mr. Speaker, but Opposition Members are so anxious to hear me. I am delighted at that. It may be helpful if I tell Opposition Members that I want to be as brief as I can—[HON. MEMBERS: "Hear, hear."]—If Opposition Members continue to interrupt me rudely and make noises, my speech will take longer. The trouble with the Opposition throughout the passage of the...
Mr Barry Henderson: If the hon. Member for Cumbernauld and Kilsyth (Mr. Hogg) had come to the Committee Room and seen his hon. Friend the Member for Falkirk, West (Mr. Canavan) misbehaving himself and had done something about whipping him out of the place, I might not have received the kind of remarks that I have received now. The hon. Member for Cumbernauld and Kilsyth heard his hon. Friend the Member for...
Mr Barry Henderson: If I am out next time, I can confidently say that a Labour person will not put me out—[Interruption.] Just as when I defeated the Labour candidate in East Dumbartonshire, it was not a Labour candidate who put me out.
Mr Barry Henderson: Of course I did, but the Labour candidate still could not defeat me there. I am sorry that I am taking longer that I intended, Mr. Speaker, but it is entirely because the Opposition keep interrupting me. Throughout the Committee stage my hon. Friend the Minister has resisted exemptions from the community charge and he was absolutely right to do that. The Bill is now leaving the Commons and...
Mr Barry Henderson: Does the hon. Gentleman wish to intervene?
Mr Barry Henderson: I said as a preliminary to my remarks that my hon. Friend the Minister was quite right not to accept exemptions earlier.
Mr Barry Henderson: The Opposition could have made that point and tabled amendments themselves, but they did not.
Mr Barry Henderson: I have given way a great deal.