Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Order. I must ask the House to cool down, or at least the two hon. Members concerned, and let us proceed with the amendment.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Order. I am sorry to interrupt the hon. Member, but he is going beyond the strict terms of the amendment.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Order. I am sorry to interrupt the hon. Member again, but the clause deals specifically with the moneys payable under the Bill and with nothing else.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Order. It is intolerable, when a Minister is answering, to have constant sedentary interruptions.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Order. I prefer to hear points of order at the end of Question Time.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Order. This matter is to be debated early after the Christmas Recess. We should get on and deal with other Questions.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: The right hon. Gentleman has made his point of order. I was informed about this rather early today. Everything is being done to get as many copies as possible here as quickly as possible.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Order. This is really irregular. The hon. Member for Farnham (Mr. Macmillan) agreed that this was not a matter for the Chair when he raised the point. It is a custom of the House to allow such a mater to be raised and for the Leader of the House to answer it. I think everybody now knows that everything possible is being done to get copies here.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: I am grateful to the hon. Member. I had noted what the Minister said.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Will it be for the convenience of the House if we debate the Bill and at the same time the motion seeking approval for the Army, Air Force and Naval Discipline Acts (Continuation) Order 1975?
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Order. I must remind the House that this is not a debate.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Mr. Beith. Question No. 7.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: No.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: I shall deal with the hon. Gentleman's point of order first. I admit that there are many times when I long for brevity from both the questioner and the Minister answering the Question. The days when a Minister just said in reply "No, Sir", "Yes, Sir" or "I shall consider the matter" seem to have gone. I agree with the hon. Member for Tiverton (Mr. Maxwell-Hyslop) that it would have been much...
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: That last matter is sub judice.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: If the hon. Member for Newcastle-upon-Tyne, East (Mr. Thomas) is questioning a decision of the judiciary, he must do so by means of a motion.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: I do not follow the hon. Member's point. I am about to call the Secretary of State to move the motion. No doubt he will explain it to the hon. Member's satisfaction and we shall then know what it is about.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: Order. May I interrupt the right hon. Gentleman? I should say for the assistance of the House that I have not selected the amendment.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: In fact, the actual word used by the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Lamont) was "fiddling". Although, in the context in which he used the word, I did not construe it that he intended to imply dishonesty, I must say that I deprecate words of that kind.
Mr Selwyn Lloyd: No. I think that we have disposed of it now.