Mr Douglas Crawford: I should like to begin by saying how much I deprecate the comments made about the Scottish National Party by the hon. Member for Aberdeen, North (Mr. Hughes). He accused the SNP of being allies of Dr. Goebbels.
Mr Douglas Crawford: I thought the word was "allies", but if the hon. Gentleman said "disciples"—
Mr Douglas Crawford: I think that it is absolutely disgraceful to say that about a party, many of whose members fought in the last war, which is trying to stand up for a nation which lost more people per head of population than did England. I am not saying that that is good I am stating it as a fact. I deprecate the use of descriptions such as "Dr. Goebbels" against the SNP by the hon. Gentleman, and the fact...
Mr Douglas Crawford: I had always thought that the English language meant the English language and that if one voted against something one voted against what it said. I shall not bore the Committee by reading out what Clauses 39 and 40 say. I merely tell the Committee that in Clause 39 the Government sought to make sure that the House and the United Kingdom Treasury had some control over, and could give...
Mr Douglas Crawford: That is such a silly question—
Mr Douglas Crawford: I do not see that that is relevant to the amendment. The point that I am trying to make is that the amendment seeks to give additional powers to this Parliament, when those who tabled it voted before Christmas against that being done. Have they had new instructions from the Leader of the Opposition? Have they once again changed their views on the matter? Has the Grand Duchess of Finchley...
Mr Douglas Crawford: Which one?
Mr Douglas Crawford: Not foul.
Mr Douglas Crawford: What has all this got to do with the amendment?
Mr Douglas Crawford: Would the hon. and learned Member assist the Committee by letting us know whether he will be forcing a Division on the amendment?
Mr Douglas Crawford: Hear, hear.
Mr Douglas Crawford: I am sorry that the hon. Member for Berwick and East Lothian (Mr. Mackintosh) is not here. He made a lucid speech, was generous in giving way and set the tone of the debate. I am also sorry that the hon. Member for Bedwellty (Mr. Kinnock) is not with us. I only hope that one of my hon. Friends will be as fortunate in catching the eye of the Chair and being able to make a half-hour speech on...
Mr Douglas Crawford: No, I will not give way. The hon. Member for North Angus and Mearns (Mr. Buchanan-Smith) said that devolution would strengthen the unity of the United Kingdom. I appreciate the philosophy behind his remarks, but we in the Scottish National Party believe that the existence of three equal nations will strengthen the friendship of the people of the British Isles.
Mr Douglas Crawford: I cannot cope with interventions from a sedentary position.
Mr Douglas Crawford: The independent Irish Republic was born out of very unfortunate circumstances, as the right hon. Gentleman knows. There are several reasons why the friendship there is not as great as that which will exist between Scotland and England after Scottish self government.
Mr Douglas Crawford: The Scottish Assembly, as envisaged in the Bill at present, is a financial eunuch. It is also a eunuch in other respects.
Mr Douglas Crawford: No, I will not give way. Hon. Members will have to contain themselves when a representative of the Scottish National Party is making a point. I know that they do not like it. The hon. Member for Bedwellty said he would be glad to see fewer hon. Members from the nationalist parties. The Scottish Assembly is a eunuch in industrial and political terms and in terms of higher education. Perhaps...
Mr Douglas Crawford: That is the sort of remark we expect from the hon. Member for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell). If it is as he says, it certainly should appeal to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Taylor). The point made by Mr. Irving was that the Isle of Man regarded very seriously the right of its own taxation. The Leader of the Opposition said in Glasgow yesterday that she was a "passionate...
Mr Douglas Crawford: I do not think that the chairman would say that.
Mr Douglas Crawford: But the chairman would know that there are 55,000 people on the Isle of Man. The right hon. Member for Down, South (Mr. Powell) referred to the Irish Republic. With independent taxation powers and political and economic autonomy, the Republic is now the fastest-growing economy in the EEC. I suggest that a self-governed Scotland might be able to emulate our cousins in Ireland. 9.15 p.m. As...