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Mr Christopher Norwood: Another Sharpeville.
Mr Christopher Norwood: rose——
Mr Christopher Norwood: The hon. Lady has a point there—
Mr Christopher Norwood: We will be another Scotland.
Mr Christopher Norwood: Let her finish.
Mr Christopher Norwood: Mr. Norwood rose——
Mr Christopher Norwood: As the right hon. Gentleman and his colleague had a considerable period in which to enact a similar Measure, why did this never happen?
Mr Christopher Norwood: Does not the hon. Lady agree that this is a gross fallacy, which we who are sympathetic to this cause should dismiss? Would she not agree that in practice women are generally a damned sight more reliable workers than men and certainly very much more loyal?
Mr Christopher Norwood: The same value, but coming from a different pair of hands.
Mr Christopher Norwood: I should like at the outset to refer to the speech by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Mitcham (Mr. R. Carr). It was a devastating exposure of the Conservative Party's hypocrisy over this issue, and it ended on an important note. He said that one of the major problems was that of the prejudice that exists inside men. It exists inside nearly all men in one way or another. This is...
Mr Christopher Norwood: Yes. They will have to. If there is a clear declaration from the leading spokesman for the other side that they will ensure that this is done, then I will accept it.
Mr Christopher Norwood: This is monstrous evasion, because in the same speech the hon. Gentleman said he wanted provisions to give employers exemptions not to carry out all the provisions in the terms specified. In other words, I am left in the right hon. Gentleman's hands as to how many exemptions he gives. Can I have a guarantee that he will give no exemptions, or very few? No. Of course I cannot, because he has...
Mr Christopher Norwood: The right hon. Gentleman's not being here makes it a bit awkward. I thought that at the end of his speech he showed some considerable gentleness towards and an understanding of the case for women in our society. I do not want that to be misunderstood. I thought the beginning of his speech showed a lack of understanding about the way industrial relations actually work. His sympathy for the...
Mr Christopher Norwood: The argument about absenteeism has very little value. The two industries in which it is highest are almost entirely staffed by men—the docks and mining.
Mr Christopher Norwood: This is a total absurdity. During the war members of the Home Guard and its predecessor, the Local Defence Volunteers, gave 20, 30, 40 and 50 hours a week because they believed in what they were doing. By the hon. Gentleman's admission, they cannot be asked for more than four hours, because they do not.
Mr Christopher Norwood: Surely this refers to an entirely different Amendment, which has been selected and is to be taken later. It has nothing to do with the numbers involved. It has a good deal to do with the composition, but nothing to do with the point of substance.
Mr Christopher Norwood: Further to my point of order. The fact that, inadvertently, there was a previous breach of order, should not mean our tolerating the present one.
Mr Christopher Norwood: That is the whole point. Is it not the custom in the Six Counties to ask people what school they went to, and is it not easy to deduce from that what faith or persuasion they follow? Will that be changed?
Mr Christopher Norwood: Mr. Christopher Norwood (Norwich, South)rose—
Mr Christopher Norwood: It would surprise me if the Minister did not understand the scheme. I believe that the hon. Gentleman is making a speech more suited to a Committee than to a discussion on the Queen's Speech.