Mr Leifchild Jones: May I ask what percentage of alcohol in beer the hon. Member is allowing in his calculations?
Mr Leifchild Jones: Do you believe what you are saying?
Mr Leifchild Jones: I mean about the telephone.
Mr Leifchild Jones: Will the hon. Gentleman tell us why he fixed the sum of £30,000,000? Why did he not put in a sum of £50,000,000 instead of £30,000,000?
Mr Leifchild Jones: The hon. Gentleman failed to satisfy me in regard to the original figure of £30,000,000. I understand that when he brought in the Bill, he estimated that the £30,000,000 would be sufficient for 13 months.
Mr Leifchild Jones: The hon. Gentleman will admit that he must have had some period in his mind within which that £30,000,000 would be expended, and at the end of which it would become necessary to have another Bill, and in the Debate I think it was mentioned that that period was about 13 months. I understand that the figure of £20,000,000 is what the Government estimate will probably be spent, assuming that...
Mr Leifchild Jones: Will the hon. and learned Gentleman take action to preserve us from the rash experiments of youth?
Mr Leifchild Jones: Does the right hon. Gentleman realise that the placing of a disability upon Members of this House is a very serious matter, calling for, probably, a prolonged Debate? The question how far the House is entitled to tell hon. Members how they should behave themselves and what they ought to do, except on matters of order in the House, is, I submit, a very far-reaching matter.
Mr Leifchild Jones: Will the right hon. Gentleman make sure that he gets good bacon.
Mr Leifchild Jones: It is rather remarkable that the speech of the Financial Secretary is much less favourable to the view put forward in support of the Amendment than it was seven years ago. The President of the Board of Trade, who was then Financial Secretary to the Treasury, promised faithfully to inquire into this question and see what could be done. The Chancellor of the Exchequer was sitting beside him and...
Mr Leifchild Jones: I want to speak on the main Amendment, and perhaps I can say here what I was about to say, which was that I heard with great satisfaction the learned Solicitor-General say that the Government proposed to introduce on Report a Clause which will cover public utility societies for building purposes. I myself have an Amendment on the Paper—in page 19, line 22, at the end to insert the words: e)...
Mr Leifchild Jones: My contention is that they do comply with the conditions mentioned by the Solicitor-General.
Mr Leifchild Jones: I think the Committee are placed in a great difficulty by this Amendment. I suggest that we have already decided the Question of Subsection (5) by the last Amendment which we put into the Bill. I fail to understand how, after we have decided without a Division the point about the societies that are exempt from Income Tax under Schedule A, we can again vote upon that Question under the...
Mr Leifchild Jones: I was not present when that agreement was arrived at, but I submit that no agreement can be reached which sets at defiance the Standing Orders. I submit that Sub-section (5) and the Amendment which you have just read out from the Chair cover the same Question which was submitted to the Committee and voted upon a few minutes ago, and, the Committee having decided that Question, they cannot be...
Mr Leifchild Jones: Does the hon. Member accept that view?
Mr Leifchild Jones: I have considerable sympathy with the effort of the Opposition to place a financial limit to the ex- penditure to be incurred under this Financial Resolution. I have watched with increasing regret the lifting of the check on expenditure by a limit in the Financial Resolution. In my opinion, it is withdrawing from the House some part of its financial control. I am tempted to vote for the...
Mr Leifchild Jones: But it is possible to have an economical or an expensive valuation.
Mr Leifchild Jones: The President of the Board of Trade has not met in the smallest degree the case which has been put forward in favour of this Amendment. The right hon. Gentleman has referred to the Estimates of the year. I agree that the Estimates are usually very accurate, and give to the House a very good idea of the amount of money that is going to be spent during the year, but we are dealing here not with...
Mr Leifchild Jones: I have listened with interest to the speech of the hon. Member for the Scottish universities (Mr. Buchan) and to his defence—the only defence—of plural voting. The hon. Member referred to Victorian Radicalism. I am a Victorian Radical, and I recognise as fully as the hon. Member the inequalities that exist in regard to the exercise of the franchise. Nevertheless, I do not see any reason...
Mr Leifchild Jones: I cannot allow the right hon. Gentleman to misrepresent me. I have not asked for two votes for anyone.
