Results 161–180 of 5629 for speaker:Mr Robin Turton

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill (9 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: I have great sympathy with the hon. Member for West Stirlingshire (Mr. Baxter). He, like myself, thinks that SET was a mistake and that it should be abandoned. He too wants to devise a new system of taxation which is not regressive in character and is easy to operate. I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that the Government are right to use a form of value added tax. My reason is that...

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill (9 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: The hon. Member for Cornwall, North (Mr. Pardoe) shakes his head. No doubt to him there is no difference, but to my constituents, to the old people, there is a difference. It is only if they have a win on the pools or a good bet on the races that they can afford a luxury. Their normal everyday expenditure is on the necessities of life.

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill (9 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: There are certain things which are quite clearly luxuries. Drink and tobacco are in the luxury class whether the person buying them has a low income or not. Equally, jewellery and fur coats come in the luxury class. But somehow we must get a lower rate for the necessities of life, and this has not been done. I appreciate the reasons of my right hon. Friend the Chancellor for doing what he has...

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill (9 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: Five of the members of the EEC operate value added tax at the moment and one is planning to operate it. My hon. Friend the Member for Canterbury (Mr. Crouch) is one of the great optimists. He is what the French call "la gouvernesse Anglaise". He believes that when Britain goes in, everyone will follow her. That is a wonderful thought and a good old Colonel Blimp idea but I often wonder...

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill (9 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: I am grateful for that assurance. My only other point is a quite different one. I accept the value added tax for the GATT reason and also because of convenience because we have to move over to some other form of indirect taxation. But how will we deal with the transitional period? This is of vital importance to many traders. My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer said that For...

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill (9 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: I am grateful for the support of the hon. Member for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell). We must have some reassurance for traders, because it is vital for the Chancellor to say something before it is too late and before people refuse to stock up because of the fear of double taxation. Up to now, although I have been in correspondence with the Treasury on the matter, we do not have sufficient...

Business of the House (4 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: May I revert to the suggestion of my right hon. Friend the Member for Stafford and Stone (Mr. Hugh Fraser) that there should be a Green Paper on how Parliament might deal with the EEC legislation? Will my right hon. Friend also bear in mind the Leader of the Opposition's observations about the blockage in Statutory Instruments? Will he consider, before we get to the next day of discussion on...

Bill Presented: General Implementation of Treaties (3 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: Further to that point of order, Sir Robert. If the Government had accepted the second Amendment which I suggested yesterday, all the Amendments which the Chair has selected for a Division would have come within the guillotine. As they refused that Amendment, we are denied that opportunity which we had previously been promised.

Welsh Affairs (2 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: It would appear that if that Amendment were selected it would very much curtail the ambit of the debate, Mr. Speaker. I ask, therefore, that, if in the course of his opening, my right hon. Friend said that he was prepared to accept that Amendment, I should be allowed formally to move it before Ten o'clock. Otherwise we can discuss that Amendment and the two other Amendments in the general...

European Communities Bill (Allocation of Time) (2 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: If my right hon. Friend thinks that that is a valid point, why did he not use the accepted parliamentary procedure under Standing Order No. 43 and submit his proposals first to a business Committee?

European Communities Bill (Allocation of Time) (2 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: Right hon. and hon. Members know that I have fairly strong views on our system of ordering business. I believe that, if possible, everything should be done by agreement through the usual channels. I always have argued that the great defect in our system is that, unlike other assemblies, we do not have a steering committee so that there can be a full but concentrated examination of Bills as...

European Communities Bill (Allocation of Time) (2 May 1972)

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European Communities Bill (Allocation of Time) (2 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: The point that I was trying to make was that why, having, unfortunately, not got a voluntary timetable, my right hon. and learned Friend did not use the procedure of the House as laid down in Standing Order No. 43 and allow the Chairman of Ways and Means and eight other hon. Members to determine what was a fair allocation of the time which the Government were willing to provide?

Vehicle and General Insur Ance Company Limited (Tribunal Report) (1 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: This House has always viewed with disquiet proceedings under the Tribunals of Inquiry Act. I share the dislike of many of the aspects of this inquiry that have been voiced by right hon. and hon. Members who have spoken in this debate. The point was well made by the right hon. Member for Sheffield, Hillsborough (Mr. Darling) that this tribunal had no expert knowledge of insurance matters....

Vehicle and General Insur Ance Company Limited (Tribunal Report) (1 May 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: I quite see the point about allegations. However, the Salmon Report also said that such people should be given the substance of supporting evidence. There is no evidence in the whole of this report that that was ever complied with.

Business of the House (27 Apr 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: Does my right hon. Friend appreciate that in seeking to impose a timetable on a constitutional Measure he is breaking parliamentary tradition? I appreciate how he has said he will discharge this grave responsibility, but will he bear in mind that Clause 2 is of much greater importance to the country than any other Clause in the Bill? Therefore, will he secure adequate time to debate it and...

Clause 2: General Implementation of Treaties (26 Apr 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: As the hon. Member for Acton (Mr. Spearing) said, these Amendments are designed to insert some parliamentary control over the Executive, here and in Brussels, in a Clause that completely lacks any such control. There has been a certain amount of confusion about the stages at which Parliamentary control can be exercised. There seem to be three possible stages. The first stage is before the...

Clause 2: General Implementation of Treaties (26 Apr 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: I entirely agree with my right hon. Friend. My right hon. and learned Friend said that there are these two alternatives: doing it by automatic enactment, as we have here, or doing it by legislation. He said that he did not want to do it by legislation, whether Statutory Instrument or Act, because he did not want to fetter future Parliaments. I suggest that this requires some explanation in...

Clause 2: General Implementation of Treaties (26 Apr 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: As I said, the issue between us is narrow. I hope that my hon. and learned Friend will go a little further and put into the Bill, so that all can see, what the intention is. I think that the intention should be that the work of consolidation, bringing up to date the existing law, should be a continuous process and should be dealt with under Standing Order 87A.

Clause 2: General Implementation of Treaties (26 Apr 1972)

Mr Robin Turton: It is my old profession and I would not want to stand in the way of its getting a certain amount of dividend out of this matter. Indeed, I agree with the right hon. and learned Gentleman that this is a natural consequence. It is a pity that the Bill should go forward without any mention of this postoperative work, which I think is vitally necessary. My right hon. and learned Friend has...


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