Results 181–200 of 610 for speaker:Mr Fred Silvester

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: I start by apologising to the House for my voice. I hope that it will stay nasal and not disappear during the course of the evening. I shall set out as carefully as I can the provisions of the Bill and say something about its key provisions and why they are necessary. The Bill arises from the Local Government Act 1972, under which all the local Acts in the Greater Manchester area were due to...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: It is in clause 26. Incidentally, dealing with clause 26 brings me to the first petition. I shall not spend much time on it, although I have no disrespect for the Central Electricity Generating Board. The CEGB has objected to seven clauses. They are mainly technical objections designed to ensure that the board's interests as a statutory undertaker are safeguarded. I am assured by the...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: The Bill provides for a period of 18 months. As I understand it—I shall check this before the end of the debate—there is no power for an extension of that period. That is the limit. It is rather more than 12 months, but not as bad as two to three years. The amendment does not alter that. It is concerned with limiting it to reclamation schemes. The petition has been withdrawn, and I...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: I hope that the hon. Member will be practical about this. Of course some people in every constituency are concerned about these powers. But reclamation scheme can be very dangerous. I was told today of a foreman who was working on such a schemes and who parked his car nearby and an earth-moving vehicle was driven over it, not only squashing his car but burying it. It was never found again....

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: They may be emotional bulls, indeed. My hon. and learned Friend is right. The Wildlife and Countryside Bill tries to overcome this problem by stopping the bulls from becoming emotional. It does that by the simple process of either restricting this to bulls of less than 10 months of age or by putting the bulls in fields with cows and heifers. I do not make light of this matter, because it...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: Yes, and on the heifers and cows. All that I can say is that this petition has been received from the National Farmers Union and the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food. They dispute the desirability of the clause, which would exclude bulls from any field through which there is a footpath, largely on the ground that it would interfere with the methods of dairy production which operate...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: I am grateful to my hon. Friend for putting that point so clearly. I think that it is well recognised by the promoters of the Bill that they have to achieve this balance. I therefore reiterate my earlier point that the Committee may wish closely to examine this provision. I do not think that it would benefit the House for me to deal with any further clauses in part IV. However, if hon....

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. The main cause of annoyance arises out of the airport use. I am sorry that the Bill is now as it is rather than as it was previously. I should like to see the development of Manchester airport, and it is a pity if anything happens which makes that more difficult. Under the Bill as amended in the other place, a passenger who arrives at Manchester...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: I support the clause because it is half a loaf. The Bill as now proposed will alleviate the problem about which the right hon. Member for Salford, West (Mr. Orme) is concerned. The taxi drivers wish to retain the restriction. That view is moving in the other direction. I believe that it is in the long-term interests of all the citizens of Manchester, including the taxi drivers, that the...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: I understand the point. The taxi drivers' petition is to retain the restriction. The right hon. Gentleman's suggestion is not covered by the Bill. It would require a degree of agreement that is probably not forthcoming. If the taxi service were a Greater Manchester council service, it would be possible to apply that kind of provision across the whole county. It has not been thought fit to...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: The hon. Gentleman has made his point. The provision is not in the Bill, and it was not one of the matters raised by the districts in bringing the Bill forward as a joint promotion. The hon. Gentleman may well be right, but for the provision to be introduced something should have been done long ago to persuade the districts. If hon. Members will forgive me, my hon. Friend the Member for...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: I have details of four recent occasions when the chief constable and his assistant claim that there was unwillingness to give information, which led to an unnecessary use of resources.

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: I am happy to do so. There is the famous case—I suppose the most famous—of the National Front march in October 1977. It was decided to transfer the march to Longsight after discussion with the National Front when there was no forthcoming information regarding demonstrations on the other side. A case is quoted in March 1980 when the Tameside Trades Council arranged a meeting in...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: That is a fair point which I also asked. There is, however, a practical problem. There are three categories of notice in Greater Manchester—24 hours, 36 hours and 48 hours, depending on which part of the county one is situated in—or nothing. It varies from place to place. There are different rules in adjacent districts. It is difficult operationally to make any good sense of that...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: The right hon. Gentleman is entitled to his view about the chief constable. We are concerned with a situation in which there has grown up over the last few years a measure of agreement in different parts of the country and in a Select Committee of the House about the nature of the power that should be operated. There is no immediate prospect, so far as one can ascertain, that the Government...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: That is not really right. I accept that some areas do not have the power and that some people have not sought the power. It seems to me that where the power is sought and where it is recommended by a Select Committee of the House, the terms of the power, as set out in the Bill, are not substantially different. So far as possible, we have lined ourselves up with powers already taken. It is...

Orders of the Day — Greater Manchester Bill [Lords] (19 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: That may have been an overstatement. I did not intend to imply that it would never happen. In any event, "never" is a meaningless word in politics. Although the review has been proceeding, it has not been possible for us to receive an indication that it will be completed within a stated time. That means that we would be left with the option of dropping the Bill in anticipation of what is yet...

Select Committees (Powers) (16 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: I agree with much of what the hon. Member for Newcastle-under-Lyme (Mr. Golding) said, and I shall return to his comments later. There is a danger, when one is pleased to see the arrival of Select Committees in this House, of becoming self-congratulatory about the process and of talking about it as though it were an unreal structure. But it concerns power, and we should start by remembering...

Select Committees (Powers) (16 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: I should not like to be misunderstood. In saying that, I did not intend to make it a party matter. I realise that all the reforms are based on support from both sides of the House. However, if the matter is to work there must be an understanding that the processes that we are now developing are to seek to wrest some degree of power from the Executive. That is always a painful and difficult...

Select Committees (Powers) (16 Jan 1981)

Mr Fred Silvester: It is always like that. If we go too fast too soon, we simply set up barriers and create difficulties for ourselves. I should not like to see the proposal go through at this stage, although it may well be necessary to have it in this Parliament if things go badly. I hope thay my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House will be able to confirm that it is the Government's intention to...


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