Results 1–20 of 324 for speaker:Mr Rafton Pounder

Northern Ireland (22 Nov 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: This is the first time I have spoken in a debate, under you, Mr. Murton, as Mr. Deputy Speaker. May I take the opportunity of expressing to you my personal congratulations and good wishes on your elevation. The formation of an Executive-designate represents a remarkable personal success for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. I genuinely join with others in...

Northern Ireland (22 Nov 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: I would not disagree with that argument. But there is always a danger in putting in a fixed figure. It can appear to be good, but any flexibility has gone and one finds at the first test that one is up against a legislative situation which requires amendment. In an emotion-charged situation in Ulster today it is easy to side with the felings of emotion. Indeed, it is politically popular so...

Northern Ireland (22 Nov 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: My hon. Friend is a much more avid newspaper reader than I am and I must admit that I was not aware of any feeling on the part of my right hon. Friend the Member for Ashford either for or against integration. I was seeking to take up his argument that integration was not on offer. UDI is as utterly repugnant as is the continuance of direct rule. We are left, therefore, with only one other...

Clause 36: Northern Ireland Constitution Bill (17 Jul 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: I apologise to you, Mr. Speaker, and to my hon. Friend the Minister of State for not having heard the opening observations of my hon. Friend. Though obviously I profoundly regret the abolition of the office of governor, nevertheless the amendment goes a considerable way towards meeting the anxieties which were widely expressed in Northern Ireland about the office of governor. I welcome the...

Schedule 6: Repeals (17 Jul 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: When we were considering these matters earlier there arose a point in connection with the repeal of a previous item of legislation which affected the Queen's University in Belfast. I understood that at one stage it was intended that the matter should be the subject of an amendment in another place, but, for technical reasons which my hon. Friend the Minister of State has made clear to me,...

Orders of the Day — Live Animals (Export) (12 Jul 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: May I at the outset declare that I am involved with an animal welfare organisation: namely, the Ulster Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals—no relation whatever, other than in name, to the organisation with which my hon. Friend the Member for Gillingham (Mr. Burden) is involved. In common with other animal welfare organisations, the USPCA deplores the export of live animals for...

Orders of the Day — Live Animals (Export) (12 Jul 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: I was careful not to make any point against the RSPCA documents which I have seen. I accept its validity, coming from such an authoritative and responsible organisation. The point I am trying to make is that sometimes photographic material is used to support a case which is not altogether reliable. There is obviously the humanitarian argument, and we are all aware of the grisly incidents...

Orders of the Day — Live Animals (Export) (12 Jul 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: I would have thought that the amount of money needed to bring our large abattoirs up to that standard would be an investment well worth making. That would considerably assist in the economic argument of the dead meat trade. I very much look forward to the day when there will be no such thing as the export of live animals for slaughter abroad. The meat processing industry in this country...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland Constitution Bill: Initial Devolution of Legislative and Executive Responsibility (20 Jun 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: I supported the Bill, albeit with reservations, on Second Reading. My right hon. Friend knows that the question of the Governor was one of the considerable reservations which I had at the time and which I still have. Normally I find myself in these discussions in agreement with the hon. Member for Leeds, South (Mr. Merlyn Rees), but to consider the issue of the Governor as some mysterious...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland Constitution Bill: Initial Devolution of Legislative and Executive Responsibility (20 Jun 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: I should like to follow closely the concluding remarks of my hon. Friend the Member for Belfast, North (Mr. Stratton Mills), who highlighted the terribly brittle thread which will exist after 28th June. Hon. Members opposite have referred to the activities of the new Londonderry Corporation. That is fine, but it met within a matter of days after the election, as did a number of the district...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland Constitution Bill: Consultation, Agreements and Arrangements with Republic of Ireland (20 Jun 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: I am happy to follow the hon. Member for Salford, West (Mr. Orme), but I know that he would not expect me to agree with him. I am glad that the clothing chosen for the clause is not that outlined in the White Paper which went further and, in my view, was fairly unattractive. Nor do I agree with my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Down, South (Captain Orr) on this issue. If I shared...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland Constitution Bill: Payment to Northern Ireland of Share of United Kingdom Taxes (20 Jun 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: The amendment is important for a variety of reasons. My hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Down, South (Captain Orr) referred to the Joint Exchequer Board, and I was tempted to ask the same question. But so complicated were the fiscal relationships between the erstwhile Northern Ireland Government and the Treasury that they were virtually incapable of being unravelled. I say this with...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland Constitution Bill: Repeals (20 Jun 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: May I seek your guidance, Sir Robert? A couple of hours ago I tabled an amendment—which, all being well, will appear on tomorrow's Notice Paper—to delete an item in Schedule 6. Not anticipating this rate of progress—

Northern Ireland (13 Jun 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: May I on behalf of my hon. Friend the Member for Londonderry (Mr. Chichester-Clark), who, as the House understands, is precluded from expressing a view but in whose constituency this dastardly atrocity occurred, and on my own behalf express our revulsion and unequivocal condemnation of this brutal outrage and express our deepest sympathy and prayers for the bereaved and injured? Has my...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland Constitution Bill (24 May 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: My hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Down, South (Captain Orr) said that he thought that this was the most important Bill to come before the House since the Government of Ireland Act 1920. Probably one can go further and say that perhaps it is an even more important measure, in so far as it brings up to date and modifies what was then an initial experiment. Tragically, this has been a...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland Constitution Bill (24 May 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: It would be illogical for me, three months after having thoroughly supported the concept of the border poll, to turn round and say "I got it all wrong." That would be particularly illogical when the Unionist Party was anxious that the border poll should be held. The only point of difference between us and the Government is that it was held far too late. We accepted the concept. It was wished...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland Constitution Bill (24 May 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: I am grateful for that clarification. I was not trying deliberately to distort the hon. Lady's remarks. I have a genuine wish to see a new Assembly off the ground in Northern Ireland. The alternative is a further period of direct rule. However, I have reservations which, no doubt, I shall be expressing in Committee. The Bill is a long way short of what some of us would like to have seen in...

Orders of the Day — New Clause 1: Punishment for Murder (14 May 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: Unfortunately, it has not been possible for me to be here throughout the debate, but I have heard a great deal of it, and I rise at this late stage more in the hope of explaining my voting intentions than of being able necessarily to add anything new. The tragedy of such an occasion as this is that the House of Commons, whether sitting as a Committee or as a House— in plenary session, if I...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland (Electoral Law) (14 May 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: Like everyone who has taken part in this debate, I want to add a word of gratitude to my hon. Friend the Minister of State and my right hon. Friend for providing free postage in the local government election. I have never been able to understand why those who, on past occasions, have stood for local government have received no expenses and no free postage. This still applies on this side of...

Orders of the Day — Northern Ireland (Electoral Law) (14 May 1973)

Mr Rafton Pounder: I am indebted to the hon. Member for that information. I was not aware of it. I share his satisfaction at the new system. I turn to the question of polling hours. Like my hon. Friend the Minister of State, I have seen the advertisements claiming that it is "as easy as one, two, three". The leaflet may be as easy as that, but the television advertisement certainly is not. We must be realistic...


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