Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: How many are there still unaccounted for in the official records?
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: it is really refreshing to hear from the right hon. and learned Gentleman the Member for Ashton-under-Lyne (Sir W. Jowitt) that he expects that my right hon. Friend will be in charge of this business after the General Election. [Hon. Members: "No."] That is the first quite candid expression of opinion we have had from the Opposition side of the House as to what is likely to be the result....
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: I beg your pardon, Mr. Speaker, if I have transgressed the Rules of Order. I thought it desirable to say that I certainly shall not oppose this Measure. I realise it is right that it should be passed at the present time, in order, at least, that we should ascertain the result of it to see whether it is a principle which should remain permanently on the Statute Book. However, I think it is...
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: I think my hon. Friend, in moving an Amendment of this kind, is splitting hairs. What we are dealing with in this case is the question of whether two areas should be merged, whether it be that an urban or rural area absorbs a borough, or a borough absorbs an urban or rural area. The process is the same; the two are brought into one unit. To suggest that a town, however small, which for many...
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: It does not stop them from merging.
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: I hope that my right hon. and learned Friend will not accede to the plausible pleading of my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Ilford (Mr. G. Hutchinson). If there is one weak spot in local government to-day, it is the fact that there are too many county boroughs which make no contribution to the ex- penses of the surrounding county, which they are only too anxious to exploit if they...
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: I am sorry, and I will not pursue it. I hope my right hon. Friend will not at this stage allow this Bill to be used for the creation of more county boroughs.
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: May I point out, too, that these orders are not final? Therefore, it is quite a reasonable proposition that they should be allowed to stand.
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: Far too many.
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: On a point of Order. Is it not the fact that the Government have no control at all over the presentation of these Measures?
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: I was not a Member of the Committee dealing with this Bill, but I would like to say on Third Reading that I think the Bill in its present form is rather lacking in omitting to direct what kind of individuals are to compose the Commission. I think it is somewhat unfortunate that there is not a clearer distinction in this Bill as to the qualifications of the future members. I think, in...
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: The Bill as it stands indicates that the Commission should be composed wholly of one interest—
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: —namely, persons concerned in forestry. It would at least have been reasonable to have one Member who was concerned with consuming the products of forestry.
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: These camps or schools have become bigger and better as each speaker has succeeded another. The Minister has introduced a Measure entitled the "Camps Bill"; the right hon. Member for South Shields (Mr. Ede) expanded the information and talked about residential schools; and the hon. Member for Kilmarnock (Mr. Lindsay) went one better and talked about adult residential colleges. What are we...
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: They are already reopened.
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: Will any of them be available this year?
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: Is it not a fact that, according to the report of the Conference, matters relating to the conduct of elections were intended to be brought in after the next election?
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: Is there not already a large surplus of factory accommodation over pre-war years?
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: Does the right hon. Gentleman appreciate that, where a thing is in unduly short supply, freedom of purchase is the last thing that should be allowed? Why should he not allow some priority in the case of the articles the hon. Lady has mentioned?
Colonel Sir Joseph Nall: Does the right hon. Gentleman not realise there is need for a real scrutiny of the way in which these men are employed? I have particulars of a plumber who is occupied in cleaning roads.