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Results 61–80 of 2959 for speaker:Mr Niall MacDermot

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill: Exemption Where Top Value is £1,500 or Less (14 May 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: Hon. Members shake their heads, but they will. They will feel that if they had known that Parliament was to repeal this legislation, they would have acted differently.

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill: Exemption Where Top Value is £1,500 or Less (14 May 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: They may or may not be able to sell now, but the point is that they took that decision which may have been important to them at that time. They may forgo benefits which they would otherwise have received because they thought that the liability which they would incur would make it not worth their while to sell. They would feel, "This Parliament cannot make up its mind; it is constantly...

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill: Exemption Where Top Value is £1,500 or Less (14 May 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: The hon. Gentleman is taking too commercial a view of the matter. [Laughter.] I know that hon. Members opposite always think of everything in commercial terms, but there are other factors which enter into these matters. [HON. MEMBERS: "Hardship."] Let us come on to hardship. The whole of the case for retrospection is on the basis that it is legislation in order to cure hardship which has...

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill: Exemption Where Top Value is £1,500 or Less (14 May 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: But the hon. Gentleman has not understood my case. I have not mentioned the administrative arguments in the whole of my speech. I am not putting my case on the administrative argument; nor, as I understand, is the Minister.

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill: Exemption Where Top Value is £1,500 or Less (14 May 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: I invite the hon. Gentleman himself to study the Minister's speech and to have listened to the passage in the Minister's speech which the hon. Member for Crosby (Mr. Graham Page) quoted when the Minister made it perfectly clear that he was not conceding that there was hardship in the majority of these cases. He agreed that there were some cases of hardship and he made the very point which I...

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill: Exemption Where Top Value is £1,500 or Less (14 May 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: That does not in the slightest contradict what I have said. The hon. Member for Crosby cited the very passage from the Minister's speech making the point which I am now making.

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill: Exemption Where Top Value is £1,500 or Less (14 May 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: I agree with the intervention of my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Northampton (Mr. Paget). Of course he is not. I suggest that the basic case for making it retrospective has not been established, namely, to show that the Amendment falls within the class of cases which are proper for retrospective legislation. It goes far wider than the mere relief of particular hardship cases. The...

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill: Exemption Where Top Value is £1,500 or Less (14 May 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: Can the hon. Member explain what hardship the widow suffered? It seems to me that she must have made a profit of between £800 and £900.

Orders of the Day — Finance Bill: Exemption Where Top Value is £1,500 or Less (14 May 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: The hon. Member appears to be basing his argument on a case of hardship, but he has not told us what the hardship was.

Orders of the Day — Betterment Levy (28 Apr 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: This is a somewhat curious sort of debate and curiously timed. The Opposition have chosen, on a Supply day, to put down a motion criticising a situation which they know perfectly well is being fully dealt with in a White Paper which has been published, and they know that a Finance Bill is to be published very shortly which will deal with the points they have raised.

Orders of the Day — Betterment Levy (28 Apr 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: I listened attentively to the speech of the hon. Member for Crosby (Mr. Graham Page) to see what more he was going to suggest should be done than is contained in the White Paper. I can only recall his making one suggestion—that the first and major exemption should apply not only to properties where the market value is £1,500 or less but to properties where the market value is £5,000 or less.

Orders of the Day — Betterment Levy (28 Apr 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: This is the difficulty. I have no doubt that what the Opposition wanted to do was to put down a Motion to say that the changes proposed in the White Paper should be retrospective. No doubt, however, they were told that, under Standing Orders, this would not be in order because we were shortly to debate the Finance Bill, on which they would be able to raise that point. The result is that we...

Orders of the Day — Betterment Levy (28 Apr 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: I think that we have been told definitely that proposals for these amendments will be in the Finance Bill, and that is a perfectly normal and proper way of dealing with the matter. I agree that betterment levy is not a tax—that has been made clear throughout. But occasionally Homer nods and it is wrongly referred to as a tax. I made the error myself in a letter to The Times not long ago and...

Orders of the Day — Betterment Levy (28 Apr 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: The hon. Gentleman knows me better than to interrupt me with a point like that. I have said that I shall return to that point, and he knows me well enough to know that I shall. He has made his speech. Perhaps he will now listen patiently and take it when hon. Members reply to him, and let them make their speeches in their own way. I repeat, since the hon. Gentleman apparently interrupted me...

Orders of the Day — Betterment Levy (28 Apr 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: The hon. Gentleman is wrong. I was not one of the Ministers dealing with the Act in Committee. I was at the Treasury at the time. I was responsible for the administration of the Act during the year I was at the Ministry of Housing and Local Government, but by then the Act was already on the Statute Book. When we consider past cases I remind hon. Members that when we passed the Act the object...

Orders of the Day — Betterment Levy (28 Apr 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: indicated dissent.

Orders of the Day — Betterment Levy (28 Apr 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: I am sure that the hon. Gentleman realises that that is a false argument. It always takes time to build up a new levy or a new tax if its operation is not made retrospective. There are bound to be high costs of collection in the early stages. One must look to the eventual yield and then set the cost against that.

Business of the House (6 Mar 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: Will my right hon. Friend consider referring to the Select Committee on Procedure the question whether the Ten Minutes Rule procedure should continue in its present form? Is he aware that many hon. Members think that that procedure is misleading to the general public, who do not understand it, that it is ineffective as a means either of legislation or of raising a grievance? It tends to...

Business of the House (6 Mar 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: Is my right hon. Friend aware that the only effect of this procedure is to empty the Chamber before we begin our main debate?

Oral Answers to Questions — Tate Gallery (20 Feb 1969)

Mr Niall MacDermot: Does my right hon. Friend accept that there is a great deal more at stake here than preserving the facade of the Tate Gallery? The present accommodation is proving inadequate to house both the British collection and to serve as a museum of modern art.


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