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Anderson Strathclyde (22 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: That is not true because at least four of us have been here. That is a larger number, proportionately, than the 12 of the 44 Labour Members who are present. [Interruption.] If they do not mind, I am supposed to be on the side of the Opposition. May I get on with the argument? I am sorry that the Minister of State has gone; I do not blame him in the light of the nonsense that we have just...

Anderson Strathclyde (22 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: That is a good point, because it was a deliberate effort to make sure that we do not get anywhere. In fact, I had to insist on our presence today.

Anderson Strathclyde (22 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: The presence was not in the House of Commons. Thank God, the Labour party does not govern the House of Commons. The presence is to deal with the representations of those outside the House who wish to see Members of Parliament. I utterly deplore this. I think it quite wrong. If Scotland wants to make a case, it should make it to every elected Member, whoever he may be. Whatever the party...

Anderson Strathclyde (22 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: Will the Minister give way?

Oral Answers to Questions — Industry: British Steel Corporation (14 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: Reverting to that earlier question and to the answer the Secretary of State gave, may I ask whether, if he were to consent to a successful negotiation by MacGregor, he would regard that as consistent with what he said in December about the retention of Ravenscraig as an operating integrated plant?

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Electricity: Amendments Relating to Meters (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: That is absolute nonsense, as usual.

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Electricity: Amendments Relating to Meters (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: Would the right hon. Gentleman do me the kindness of reading the report of the proceedings of the second sitting in Committee where he will see the reference to the Chairman's ruling that amendment No. 1 should be diverted from clause 3 to clause 1 or clause 2. The critical votes were taken at the sixth sitting. Will the right hon. Gentleman apologise now?

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Electricity: Amendments Relating to Meters (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: The trouble with the Bill is that it is an exaggeration for the Secretary of State to claim that it does all that he says it does, even though there is a suggestion that his right hon. and hon. Friends do not believe that it goes far enough. The Committee stage was not entirely agreeable, but it provided a great deal of information. The point that there is no substantial development in...

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Parliamentary Reports Under Section 3 of the Act (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: I agree with the intention and wording of new clause 9, and I am sure that my right hon. and hon. Friends will support it if the Government are foolish enough to cause a Division by refusing to incorporate it in the Bill. As we made clear on Second Reading and at great length in Committee, however, the proposal in the new clause does not go far enough. We believe that a new Bill should be...

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Parliamentary Reports Under Section 3 of the Act (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: As the hon. Gentleman should know, if the Bill is passed in its present form—with or without the new clause—a full planning inquiry and the full panoply of the nuclear installations inspectorate would be involved in any case. Enormous hoops would have to be jumped through by the private company concerned. That is why it is incredible to make out that there would not be time to introduce...

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Parliamentary Reports Under Section 3 of the Act (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: It is a great sadness to me that we are often criticised by people who have not read the record. The record is there to be seen. If hon. Members read the debate on Second Reading closely they will see what we said. The official Opposition were distressed that we voted for the Bill on Second Reading. I must be fair to Ministers. We were not given any encouragement on Second Reading to believe...

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Parliamentary Reports Under Section 3 of the Act (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: In fairness to the right hon. Gentleman, I believe that he was not present during the first few sittings of the Committee because he was not a member of it.

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Parliamentary Reports Under Section 3 of the Act (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: As far as I remember, the right hon. Gentleman was not there.

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Parliamentary Reports Under Section 3 of the Act (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: Very well, the right hon. Gentleman was on the Committee. I ask him, therefore, to refresh his memory about the debate on clause 1. The debate on this matter was taken with clause 1. During the debates on clause 3, the right hon. Gentleman complained that the matter should have been taken then. However, the voting had taken place on clause 1. I shall not read the speeches again. It would...

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Parliamentary Reports Under Section 3 of the Act (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: Will the Minister now read those parts of the Second Reading debate when I suggested that it would be possible to amend clauses 1, 2, and 3—[Interruption]. I was present on Second Reading. I am referring to my speech on Second Reading. I am asking the Minister to give the quotation and also the references to sittings in Committee on clauses 1 and 2 concerning this matter.

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Directions by the Secretary of State (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: The burden of the argument of the hon. Member for Bedford (Mr. Skeet) is that the new clause is not valid and that section 8(1) of the Electricity Act 1957 does not restrict access to particular types and sources of fuels by direction of the Secretary of State. Given that that is not so and the clause is valid, it strikes me as being a reasonable one. It is even-handed. If it is true that...

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Directions by the Secretary of State (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: I always said that the hon. Member for Bedford should be a Minister. I am willing to accept on second hand that he may be right, and perhaps the Minister will confirm that there is no necessity for specific directions. If there is some way in which the Secretary of State can influence these matters—let us not be confined in thought to this legislative action—it is conceivable that other...

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Directions by the Secretary of State (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: I am sure that Hansard is more fair than the Minister. He will see that preceding the remarks to which he refers, I referred to the apology that the hon. Member for Midlothian (Mr. Eadie) insisted that he generously made to me and demanded that, in return, I support a clause of this type at this stage of the Bill. I said that I would do that and I am doing it.

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Directions by the Secretary of State (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: The Minister contradicts himself. He said at the beginning of his 'speech that specific powers in the new clause do not exist. Now he suggests that he can achieve the objective in some other way and can compensate the CEGB for any loss that it incurs in doing what the Government wish. That is a substantial change in argument. The new clause seeks to treat both private and public generators in...

Orders of the Day — Energy Bill: Operational Control (8 Mar 1983)

Dr Dickson Mabon: I naturally associate myself with what the right hon. Gentleman has just said about the efforts of all of us in the Committee dealing with this matter. We have the testimony of the columns and columns of contributions on this matter. Let us look at Government amendment No. 3, because that is what we are going to accept even though technically we are discussing these two new clauses. I...


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