Results 241–260 of 2062 for speaker:Mr Emlyn Hooson

Clause 25: Staff (8 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: I do not altogether go along with the hon. Member for Bedwellty (Mr. Kinnock). There were mainly economic reasons for the effective decline of the Welsh language. It was a matter of the dominant culture and the dominant economy being English, and there were obvious consequences from it. However, we should not hark back all the time to Welsh history to determine what we should do today. 4.45...

Schedule 2: Existing Statutory Functions (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Does not the hon. Gentleman recollect that the Conservative Government refused to have a commission on Wales? There was no commission on Wales for local government purposes. There was for England and Scotland but not for Wales.

Schedule 2: Existing Statutory Functions (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The right hon. Member for Anglesey (Mr. Hughes) has made a very sensible contribution to the debate. The more I listen to the debate the more I think that it is a tragedy that the previous Government implemented their plans for local government reform without waiting for the Kilbrandon Commission to report. In acting in this way they put Wales in an impossible position. When local government...

Schedule 2: Existing Statutory Functions (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: I came in about halfway through the hon. Member's speech and I must say that I am grateful that I missed the first part. There is a real problem involved, but we must accept that when new local government bodies are created they will have vested interests. We see the county councils reacting more violently against the proposed Assembly than the district councils. That is because they feel...

Schedule 2: Existing Statutory Functions (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: I do not accept that. I share the view of the right hon. Member for Anglesey. I think that it is taking an impossibly pessimistic view to suggest that the people of Wales cannot elect their own Assemblymen and women who are capable of doing a first-class job. I agree that there is prejudice to overcome and I have never made any bones about that. The hon. Member for Pontypool (Mr. Abse) has...

Schedule 2: Existing Statutory Functions (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Member assumes that there will be a great change in local government. Whatever views I held six years ago on the proposed local government reform, I feel that it is unlikely to be changed again in the near future. There will be some small changes. For example, at present planning powers are exercised by both the district and county councils. These should be exercised by only one area...

Clause 16: Standing Orders (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: This is not critical.

Clause 16: Standing Orders (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Many hon. Members consider that the amendments that follow this amendment are more important. That may be why they want to curtail the debate on this one so that they will have time left to discuss the more important amendments.

Clause 18: Subject Committees (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: I share the doubts about a committee structure in the Assembly, but was it not recommended by the Kilbrandon Commission of which the hon. and learned Member for Huntingdonshire (Sir D. Renton) was a member? Did he dissent from that recommendation?

Clause 18: Subject Committees (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Surely the hon. Gentleman remembers the European Assembly Bill, when there was a green desert on his side of the Committee and very few hon. Members were interested.

Clause 18: Subject Committees (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: If Clause 18 and 19 are excluded from the Bill the Welsh Assembly will set up its own procedure and it will be answerable to the Welsh people. If it misuses the procedure laid down by Parliament it will blame Parliament.

Clause 18: Subject Committees (7 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: I do not believe that the Secretary of State is right to say that this is a safeguard for minority parties. The fear is that too many decisions will be taken by unpublicised manoeuvre instead of by open government in a Cabinet system. If the Assembly is to be entrusted with setting up its own orders and so on, it can be entrusted with setting up its own system of government, whatever it is....

Clause 1: Effect of Act (1 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: I cannot follow the right hon. Gentleman's argument. He and his party were surely using the same argument when opposing the introduction of a Secretary of State for Wales, saying that Wales would be disadvantaged by it. He is now pointing to the enormous advantage that followed from it. Is he not being entirely inconsistent?

Clause 1: Effect of Act (1 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The right hon. and learned Member for Huntingdonshire (Sir D. Renton) has grossly exaggerated the effect of the Bill. So has the right hon. Member for Cambridgeshire (Mr. Pym), in what was virtually a Second Reading speech. The clause that we are discussing is complete surplusage to the Bill, and that is the sole reason why it should not stand part of the Bill. The first sentence reads: The...

Clause 1: Effect of Act (1 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: With great respect, the right hon. Gentleman will find that at the time the argument was used that it would be another step in the direction of devolution, that the next thing wanted would be greater powers of devolution, and so on.

Clause 1: Effect of Act (1 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Does it matter what Plaid Cymru thinks? We should consider the proposals on their merits. Surely one of the great factors is that Lord Crowther and Lord Kilbrandon, who followed him, were two of the most distinguished economists and jurists in this country in their turn, and they came to this conclusion with the object of achieving administrative efficiency.

Clause 1: Effect of Act (1 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Gentleman is putting his argument very moderately, and I am following him with interest. Does he appreciate that over the centuries, as a deliberate act of State, there were enormous attacks on Welsh cultural and social life? There was a deliberate attempt by acts of State to kill the very culture to which he refers. In this century and at the end of the last, we began to try to...

Clause 1: Effect of Act (1 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Mr. Hooson rose—

Part Vi: Revision of Proportional Voting System (1 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: I observe sadly that even the daffodil of the hon. Member for Pontypool (Mr. Abse) has drooped and died in despair at the nonsense he has been talking.

Part Vi: Revision of Proportional Voting System (1 Mar 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Since I was diagonally opposite the hon. Gentleman, I moved it to safety in case the same fate should befall it. The object of these amendments is to change the electoral system to make it fairer and more acceptable. I am particularly concerned at the Government's reactions to them for one reason. If the Government intend to win the referendum in Wales, it is very important that they should...


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