Results 181–200 of 2062 for speaker:Mr Emlyn Hooson

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Rate Support and Other Grants (5 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Gentleman must not continue to make these misstatements. We in the House of Commons do not have any discussions with local authorities. Only the Welsh Office and the Department of the Environment have discussions with loca lauthorities.

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Rate Support and Other Grants (5 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Of course, as the hon. Member appreciates, Montgomeryshire produces most of the water for the Severn-Trent Water Authority.

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Rate Support and Other Grants (5 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Gentleman has used strong words about people who use money that has been raised for one purpose but is used for another. What would he say about successive Conservative Governments and the way they used the Road Fund in this country?

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Rate Support and Other Grants (5 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Since the Minister was present in the rate support grant debates this year, last year and the year before that will he say how many of the hon. Members who have made great play with the negotiations that take place on the rate deficiency fund were present for those debates or tried to get in to speak?

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Power of Secretary of State to Prevent or Require Action (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Gentleman has asked for a precedent. Surely there was no precedent in this country for, say, the Parliament Act 1911, which curbed the powers of the House of Lords. I do not think that the precedent argument is a sound one, whatever other argument there may be in favour of his view.

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Power of Secretary of State to Prevent or Require Action (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Member for Bedwellty (Mr. Kinnock) made the astonishing statement that there are no halfway houses in democracy, but surely the growth of democracy has been nothing but a succession of halfway houses. The hon. Gentleman, when arguing against the Common Market, said that our accession to the Treaty of Rome was a halfway house to the sort of Europe of which he did not approve. The...

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Power of Secretary of State to Prevent or Require Action (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: That question has nothing to do with that which we are discussing. I reply to the first part of the hon. Gentleman's question. There are Members of this place who are Marxists. There are Members of this place who believe in the separation of Scotland from England and Wales. There are Members who believe in the separation of Wales from the United Kingdom. Do they get their own way? Do they...

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Power of Secretary of State to Prevent or Require Action (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Gentleman cited the case of the Bedwas and Machen Council which disagreed with an Act passed by Parliament. It expressed its protest by refusing to obey the law, but in the end it had to do so because that was the law of the land. No doubt those councillors would have liked the power to carry out the law as they thought it should be, but they could not do so. People accept that...

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Power of Secretary of State to Prevent or Require Action (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Are not the Opposition trying to promote a potentially unholy alliance between the Assembly in Cardiff and the House of Lords?

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Is the hon. Gentleman in favour of the Assembly having a tax-raising function so that it may raise its own revenues?

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Is that the view of the Conservative Party?

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Gentleman is not answering the point.

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Surely the answer to that point is that the House of Commons would be as anxious then as it is now to preserve the unity of the United Kingdom. So will the Welsh Members who come here. That is why they want equality of payments and social services grants to each part of the United Kingdom.

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Surely the hon. Gentleman appreciates that the crime rate is still lower in Wales than in England.

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Gentleman has made the point that there is no formula laid down in the Bill for the allocation of resources between competing areas. There is no formula laid down in the House of Commons for the allocation of resources. It is the Executive always which arranges the formula with the competing claimants in the country as a whole. Surely the position will be no different in Wales.

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: I should be more impressed by the hon. Gentleman's argument if there were not any number of examples in the world of subordinate legislatures in relationship to the mother Parliament. Let us take our own country. For many years there was the relationship between the Northern Ireland Parliament and this Parliament. The Northern Ireland Parliament was always indebted but not because of the...

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: Answer my question.

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: I have been provoked into making a contribution to the debate largely by the speech of the hon. Member for Bedwellty (Mr. Kinnock). He is preoccupied with his fear of nationalism. It seems to me that he sees bogymen where they need not exist. There are overwhelming reasons why the people of the United Kingdom as a whole and the people of Wales will want the United Kingdom to remain as an...

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: If I had my way, I would have regional Assemblies in England as well. Let us deal with the situation as it is. The hon. Member is suggesting that the taxpayers of England will get fed up subsidising the people of Scotland and Wales. I do not think that anything of that kind will happen. For one thing, the taxpayers of England realise that it is to their advantage to preserve the unity of the...

Orders of the Day — Wales Bill: Welsh Consolidated Fund and Loans Fund (4 Apr 1978)

Mr Emlyn Hooson: The hon. Member spoke constantly of "generosity". He used the term "generosity of the taxpayers" several times. Much of the earlier money in the South-East of England is second and third and generation money made in the industrial areas of Wales, Scotland, the North of England and the Midlands. Much of it is investment money. The hon. Member for Bedwellty is trying to use his arguments to...


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