Mr Cecil Harmsworth: It was for the purposes of transport. I now come to Subhead L, "Turks in Malta." In 1919 there were in Constantinople some 120 Turks who were in custody on account of alleged cruelties to British prisoners and on account of massacres during the War. The cases relating to these prisoners dragged in the Constantinople courts, as other cases have dragged in other courts, and there seemed to be...
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: I am not quite sure of that, but when Bekir Sami Bey returned to Anatolia, the Kemalist Assembly repudiated the contract altogether. Concurrently with all this, we were receiving a serious account of the hardships that were being endured by the British prisoners in Kemalist hands. Members of the Committee will probably remember the accounts that appeared at that time in the Press and the...
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: I have said that I have every reason to hope, and good reason to believe, that she will pay. I do not think my hon. and gallant Friend need be under any misapprehension.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: When one is dealing with an item of this kind, one can only wish that it had disappeared with many other well-intentioned War efforts under the form of Votes of Credit in the old days when this House disbursed immense sums of money, and was not very particular as to what the expenditure was upon. Far be it from me to criticise, as, indeed, I do not, any action His Majesty's representatives...
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: Does the hon. and gallant Gentleman suggest that I would deny a statement of fact?
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: The hon. and gallant Member for Central Hull (Lieut. -Commander Kenworthy) asked me to explain the Estimate as it is printed on the Paper. The original Estimate for 1921–22 was £225,000, and we had a Supplementary Estimate last July for £74,599. We are now asking for £37,500, and that makes up the total of £337,099. If this were the right occasion I should be disposed to take very...
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: He asked if we had any guarantee of their good behaviour.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: That is just a paraphrase. Our object was to find some part of Russian soil to which presumably certain people could be sent with any safety to their lives, and Eastern Siberia happened to be the only place within our knowledge where the Cossacks could be sent with any prospect of their surviving the adventure. The other point mentioned by the hon. and gallant Member for Stoke was as to the...
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: I cannot give the figure. Perhaps the hon. and gallant Gentleman will put a question down.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: The hon. and gallant Gentleman is asking for the total amount of money which has been spent in recent times. That involves the very large military operations which were going on in Persia at one time.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: I hope I may say with confidence that these are the last payments to be made in respect of these two matters, that is to say, the Anglo-Persian Military Mission and the transport of the Cossacks. I shall be very happy, if the figures are forthcoming, to give the hon. and gallant Gentleman something like an approximate estimate of all our expenditure in Persia in recent years.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: There is not the remotest prospect of that happening. This money is merely for the maintenance of 5,000 refugees in Serbia, Egypt and elsewhere, followers of Denikin, and has nothing whatever to do with General Wrangel.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: No, but men, women and children.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: No.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: We see it every day.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: Only on the Denikin refugees.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: General Wrangel is receiving no money from the British Government and never has, so far as I know.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: The hon. and gallant Gentleman has no right to say that. I repudiate again the whole of this cock-and-bull story about the building up of a Wrangel Army in Serbia.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: We do not pay for any Wrangel refugees.
Mr Cecil Harmsworth: I said that the total figure, including the £300,000, for the maintenance of these refugees from the time we undertook the obligation until now was £1,100,000. That is not the cost for the year.