Results 1–20 of 1874 for speaker:Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris

European Parliament ( 8 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: What is the point of order which the hon. Gentleman wishes me to answer?

European Parliament ( 8 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: To be a valid point of order the matter must fulfil the requirements of Standing Orders in this respect and I cannot see that anything which the hon. and gallant Gentleman has said is contrary to that.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: Third Reading what day?

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I cannot cake a point of order in the middle of putting the Bill. I am bound to put the Bill immediately without debate. I will take the point of order as soon as I have disposed of the Bill.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I cannot take it now.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I cannot take it until I have put the Question on the Bill.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: Maybe I can clear this up without any help from the hon. Member for Islington, South-West (Mr. George Cunningham). The relevant Standing Order is Standing Order No. 56, which says: The question for the third reading of a public bill shall be put forthwith unless notice has been given by not less than six members of an amendment to the question or of a motion that the question be not put forthwith.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I quite understand what the hon. Member means when he says that he has not had the chance, but we are in somewhat unusual circumstances in that I am bound to put the Question straight away without debate.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: There is nothing now to be said which could not have been said on Second Reading. Any comments hon. Members may have could have been made a little sooner than this. We are on a procedural matter, and I am bound to carry out the Standing Orders as they are laid down.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I do not think it needs any explanation from me of why the circumstances are unusual. There can be no one left in the country who does not realise that they are unusual. I will leave it at that, and I hope that the hon. Member will accept what I say.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: Order. The hon. Member is on the wrong beam there. This House will be dissolved tomorrow——

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: Therefore, the Government have made a statement about the business for today and that business is being taken. There is nothing we can do to alter that.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I must try to dispose of this matter as quickly as possible.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I do not need any help from anybody about this. Also I do not need any more points of order. I am sorry but I cannot oblige either hon. Member, much as I should like to do so. If I had the power under Standing Orders to use discretion this is just the sort of case where I should like the chance to use it, but I cannot use it. I am absolutely precluded from that, and I must put the Question...

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I take the opportunity immediately to apologise to the hon. Gentleman. I had no desire to ridicule him. I was trying to add some lightness to the debate, which was perhaps becoming a little heavy. Now I must put the Question.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I cannot help the hon. Gentleman. He could have helped himself earlier if he had taken the opportunity of putting down a motion before I came to Third Reading. That was not done. I was in the act of calling the Bill for Third Reading when the hon. Gentleman sought to raise a point of order which I told him I could not take. I have tried to be as lenient as I could be with the hon....

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: Order. We must try to be as good tempered as we can be and finish our work here in a good spirit. I try only to carry out the rules of the House as I understand them. I ask the hon. Gentleman to accept—

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: Order. The hon. Gentleman knows well enough that when I have finished what I am saying I shall call him. He must not interrupt me. It is quite out of character and is something which is not done in the House. I cannot take the motion which the hon. Gentleman seeks to move because I am expressly precluded from doing so. Such a motion must be put down before we come to Third Reading. I judged...

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: ; If the hon. Gentleman will sit down, I shall tell him exactly. The rules are that a blocking motion must be on the Order Paper or, in a case such as the present, when we have had to change the business of the day, in the hands of the Chair before the moment arrives to put the Question. I hope that the hon. Gentleman will not keep the House unduly now.

Representation of the People Bill: Limits on Parliamentary Election Expenses ( 7 Feb 1974)

Wing Commander Sir Robert Grant-Ferris: I cannot accept that suggestion. The position is quite clear. We are working under Standing Order No. 56. The procedure I went through is the normal procedure that we go through on all Bills. I am sorry that I cannot accede to the request of the hon. Members for West Ham, North (Mr. Arthur Lewis) and Islington, South-West (Mr. George Cunningham). I hope that I have explained thoroughly why I...


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