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Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 7. — (Claims against and by the Minister in Respect of Exercise of power) ( 2 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: These words were put in after a prolonged consideration and consultation between the Treasury officials and the Parliamentary draughtsmen with the very object of providing specifically for the point which my hon. Friend has in mind, that nothing whatever which is laid down by this Section shall in any way create a value which could be urged in enhancement of the price, which, if eventually...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 2 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: This is a matter upon which I personally have some responsibility. On the Second Beading of the Bill, as the right hon. Baronet has pointed out, I replied to a question, or in fact several questions, on that subject at the time when I was explaining that the Government had withdrawn the acquisition powers, as to what the position would be. At that time there were in the Clause which dealt...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 2 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: I would like to correct that, because it is so easy to get the wrong impression about shipping. We cannot carry on any services at all by sea unless a railway company has actually to-day the powers given to it by Parliament to run that service. You cannot run any coasting service.

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 2 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: I do not think that would be the way to give effect to the proposal of the Government, because if the words which are proposed in this Amendment were inserted at the beginning of this Clause it would govern the working of transport services, and it is to work transport services that the Government wishes to seek the authority of the House.

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 2 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: This is really a very serious point, having regard to what has been said in this House throughout the Debates on this Bill as to the necessity for doing something immediately to meet the needs of rural districts and housing. If we are to accept this Amendment it means that no transportation service can be established at all with a further vision than two years. Does any Member of this House...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 2 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: There are two points which have been raised, and my hon. Friend asks me to reply to the hon. Member for Newcastle. His fear is that this Transport Service Commission may be used to extend enormously services up and down the coast. I can only repeat what I have said several times already in Committee, and which will be found in Clause 22 of the Bill, the expression 'transport services by...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: The Debate on this, so far as the Mover and Seconder arc concerned, is practically what was said in Committee, and when my right hon. Friend the Member for the City of London (Sir F, Banbury) says he has always understood that it was to be an aggregate million, and that that is; really the purpose of putting in the plural "services," I think that he mast be forgetting what he said in Standing...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: I think the explanation of the financial control of the House which the right hon. Gentleman has given is quite accurate. The Ministry will lay Estimates like any other Department and they will give in appropriate detail the directions in which the total sum is to be expended. Let us say, for the sake of argument, that in the Estimates for any one year there was a sum of £2,000,000 or...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: Yes, or to come back.for that specific service, but in all cases, whether the amount be large or small, the Amendment we have just inserted provides for Estimates being given. The procedure there is exactly what the right hon. Gentleman (Sir D. Maclean) has explained. What I meant by saying I thought we could meet the point in the Amendments which were coming later on was this. We have...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: The words are really unnecessary. It would be impossible without breaking up a road to lay a track. You cannot put it down on a hard road.

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: I think this Amendment is consequential upon an Amendment to Clause 7, which was put down but was not moved. If we adopted this Amendment now, we would have the two-sets of words conflicting. I hope, therefore, the hon. Member will not press it.

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 8. — (Power to Establish Transport Services.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: I beg to move, at the end of Sub-section (1), to add the words and (iv) the Minister shall not after two years from the passing of this Act, unless Parliament otherwise determines, commence the construction of any new works, or provide equipment for any transport service not established before that date. This question was very fully discussed at the last meeting of the House, on a Motion by...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 10. — (Power As To Railway Wagons.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: This maybe a convenient opportunity to put before the House the principle underlying the provisions of this Clause. I think the House would like to know really why the Government thinks it necessary to take over all wagons as a whole. About half the wagons of the country do not belong to railway companies, but to what we call private owners, which does not exclude corporations or statutory...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 10. — (Power As To Railway Wagons.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: I can only give one comparison, and that is the railway that my hon. Friend referred to, because that is the only railway on which there is not a large amount of private rolling stock. You have to get a railway in that position before you can really give a comparison. On that particular railway there are practically no privately-owned wagons.

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 10. — (Power As To Railway Wagons.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: On that railway 40 per cent. of the wagons are.12 tons or over, with an average capacity of 16½ tons. On the other hand, taking the private wagons as a whole, 500,000 out of 650,000 (of which I have obtained a census), or nearly 80 per cent., are of less than 12 tons capacity. I think that answers the hon. Member's point. As to the importance of increasing the capacity, the House will...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 10. — (Power As To Railway Wagons.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: It certainly is intended that all wagons other than those owned by the statutory railway companies should be treated as privately owned. I was advised at the time that privately owned in that sense was sufficiently well understood to carry that definition. If there is any doubt upon that I will, by leave of the House, put in words that will make it perfectly clear. If this is to be of any...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 10. — (Power As To Railway Wagons.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: I would like if I may to reply to that point. It would be essential that wagons of the proper type should be provided in order to get a quick turn round, but also in the interest of the receiver due regard must be paid to the facilities of discharging at the receiving end. After what has been said I think it will interest the House to know this. The cheapest wagon for discharging is the...

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 10. — (Power As To Railway Wagons.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: We will come to this point on a later Amendment, but in Clause 10, Section (3, a), there is a provision that suitable railway wagons for the use of traders should be provided with reasonable facilities.

Orders of the Day — Ministry of Ways and Communications Bill.: Clause 10. — (Power As To Railway Wagons.) ( 7 Jul 1919)

Sir Eric Geddes: Certainly, and again at the top of page 16, in Sub-clause (3, c), there is provision with regard to the usage of the trade, so that there is full recognition of the cases to which the hon. Gentleman has referred. But although power is taken now to take over wagons generally, and there is no exclusion, at the present stage there is no intention at all to touch these special wagons, such as are...


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