Mr Andrew Faulds: Can we have an assurance that the necessary contingency planning has been made if at the end of the day we have to snuff out Smith and his rebel clique by military means?
Mr Andrew Faulds: So could Smith well be wrong.
Mr Andrew Faulds: No one heard it.
Mr Andrew Faulds: We are listening eagerly.
Mr Andrew Faulds: As the House will have gathered during the last few months, I have a particular interest in Africa. I was born there, my parents spent a great part of their lives working for African advance and my sister is now living in Salisbury with her six children. I was there visiting her last July. I can, therefore, claim a somewhat closer concern with this whole sad problem of Southern Rhodesia than...
Mr Andrew Faulds: My right hon. Friend has gone even further than that. Unfortunately, Smith has not bitten the bait. Some of us were not too happy about the offers that were extended. However, he has turned them down, anyway. The Prime Minister went to the bounds of the possible in trying to force some sort of acceptable compromise in his dealings with Smith. One has every sympathy with the opinion of the...
Mr Andrew Faulds: I am willing to accept that there is grave misapprehension about the British people's response to the Government's responsibility towards Southern Rhodesia, but the outcome in Algeria was justified. President de Gaulle got majority rule and snuffed out the incipient civil war. The second consideration is logistical. If we accept that, logistically, such intervention in Southern Rhodesia is...
Mr Andrew Faulds: Some of them.
Mr Andrew Faulds: No.
Mr Andrew Faulds: If the hon. Member gets so excited that he cannot take in a previous speaker's points I ask him not to make references to them that are not true.
Mr Andrew Faulds: I did not use the word "easy".
Mr Andrew Faulds: Absolute nonsense.
Mr Andrew Faulds: As a traitor.
Mr Andrew Faulds: He is a political pariah.
Mr Andrew Faulds: On a point of order. If the Leader of the Opposition is a man, will he withdraw?
Mr Andrew Faulds: Mr. Faulds rose—
Mr Andrew Faulds: A Member—I do not have the benefit of either his name or his constituency—pointed a finger at me. It was not I who used the word "traitor".
Mr Andrew Faulds: On a point of order. I did not wish to interrupt my right hon. Friend, but I have not quite so much hesitancy in interrupting the right hon. Gentleman. Are we not this afternoon discussing, not the affairs of a country called "Rhodesia", but the affairs of a British Colony called "Southern Rhodesia", and is not this White Paper wrongly titled?
Mr Andrew Faulds: Does my right hon. Friend realise that many of us on this side believe that he has given the rebel Smith quite enough chances to come to heel? Will he make a categorical reaffirmation of the Government's intention that, when law and order breaks down in Rhodesia, as it will under the Smith régime, they will adopt the customary colonial fashion for imposing order?
Mr Andrew Faulds: May I ask my hon. and learned Friend why the interesting progression to democracy which he outlines as being possible for Rhodesia has never happened in South Africa?