Mr John Cartland: Does not my right hon. Friend think it essential that we shoe d have these figures if we are to have any sort of national food policy?
Mr John Cartland: asked the President of the Board of Trade whether his Department have considered any proposals for the holding of a national census of distribution?
Mr John Cartland: While thanking my right hon. Friend for his answer, may I ask him to consider the very remarkable results obtained in other countries where such a census has been held? In view of the importance of our food policy at the moment, could he not reconsider the possibility of taking such a census?
Mr John Cartland: Have the Commissioners been consulted with regard to the continuance of the Act?
Mr John Cartland: Many Members who have listened to the hon. Member for Dundee (Mr. Foot) will be in agreement with much of what he has said. The hon. Member gave us a quotation from Sydney Smith. Let me give him a quotation from George Canning: Black's not so black; nor white so very white. As I have listened to the speeches of hon. Members of the Opposition I have felt inclined to remind them that not all...
Mr John Cartland: The hon. Lady interrupted me too soon—the remarkable achievements in Russia. Does the hon. Lady now wish to interrupt me?
Mr John Cartland: The hon. Lady naturally has far greater knowledge of Russia than I have. When people look abroad and see the remarkable achievements in foreign countries—in Russia, in Germany, in Italy—they are very much concerned, because in this country they see exactly the same problems and they find no solution to them. I believe those problems are not merely problems for democracy or for a National...
Mr John Cartland: May I ask the Minister whether he has the figures showing the rate at which the cost of living has gone up between 1934 and 1936? That was the point that I was making.
Mr John Cartland: Why is the advice of the Committee not accepted by the hon. Member?
Mr John Cartland: Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the Birmingham Corporation have made a special agreement with the London Midland and Scottish Railway, which is far more restrictive in character than any of the proposals in this Bill?
Mr John Cartland: The hon. and learned Member for East Bristol (Sir S. Cripps) pointed out that a large number of small people have already been protected.
Mr John Cartland: Naturally I do not know as much about conditions as the hon. Gentleman, but it does seem to me after my visit that whatever Regulations were brought in they could not possibly improve the conditions there.
Mr John Cartland: asked the Secretary of State for War when his Department will take possession of the land recently purchased at Waterton Court Farm, Bridgend; and whether, apart from buildings for manufacturing purposes, houses will be erected on the site?
Mr John Cartland: asked the Secretary of State for War whether his Department, before purchasing Water-ton Court Farm, Bridgend, consulted the district commissioner for South Wales as to the suitability of this land in relation to other possible sites for the purpose in view?
Mr John Cartland: Will my right hon. Friend consider making a rather fuller statement than he has done—though I thank him for that—because there is a certain amount of discussion going on in the area as to why this particular site was purchased?
Mr John Cartland: The hon. Member for Kingswinford (Mr. A. Henderson) gave us a review of the Poor Law since the days of Queen Elizabeth, and we on this side of the House will find no quarrel with the various steps which he set out. When he came to 1931, however, and made the point which has frequently been made of the difference between the means test as imposed by the National Government and the means test...
Mr John Cartland: I accept at once what the hon. Gentleman says. In fact, I was going on to make that clear, but from that there follow certain arguments which I should like to make. Before doing so, however, I wish to make a remark about a point, which has been made before, that this Government has subsidised the capitalist machine to the extent of tens of millions of pounds. We accept that. We find nothing...
Mr John Cartland: I am in the recollection of the House when I say that he referred to the salaries of both the Minister and of Lord Rushcliffe. He also rather made fun of the fact that in the Regulations the words "flexibility," "discretion," "advice" and "assistance" occur so frequently, and he said that no Government publication within his knowledge had even contained words of this character so many times....
Mr John Cartland: That just shows that a little caution and a little consideration were necessary; but if the right hon. Gentleman says, "We ought to have had more time to consider these Regulations" he cannot turn round and make it a point that immediately on publication a great agitation burst out. I should have thought the right hon. Gentleman would have been very pleased at the delay. I have turned up, as...
Mr John Cartland: I was referring to industries as a whole.