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Clause 1: Treaty on European Union (5 May 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: The hon. Gentleman raises what I can best describe as a "colourable" argument. If a citizen could overcome the problems of locus standi, which in my view are never as great as they are said to be, that argument might lead to a justiciable issue on which a court might have to decide. In those circumstances, there is at least a chance that the court will decide against the Attorney-General and...

Clause 1: Treaty on European Union (5 May 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: I am sure that means might be found to produce that sort of expression of opinion if the matter were ever litigated. I want to pass on to a second possible aspect of tonight's decision. It is not the obstacle to ratification that would be imposed by some disparity between the treaty and domestic law. Rather, it is the effect of the statement by the House on the propriety of the Government...

Clause 1: Treaty on European Union (5 May 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: That is an interesting precedent. Perhaps I should refine the point that I am making. What would be the consequence of the House saying that it was prepared to endorse the treaty as a whole, but that it objected to part of it? That creates a problem. Everybody concedes that one cannot ratify in part. One either ratifies a treaty or one does not. Let us imagine that we were arguing the case...

Clause 1: Treaty on European Union (5 May 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: That point has been argued on a number of occasions by the hon. Gentleman and others in his party, but in all honesty I do not think that it has any merit. I speak only from memory, but I believe that the 1978 Act declared that a treaty includes the protocols and all the other bits and pieces that go with the treaty. There is no question but that the protocol is part of the treaty for the...

Clause 1: Treaty on European Union (5 May 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: My hon. Friend must be right. In any ordinary interpretation of these matters, a protocol is part of the treaty. That was made clear in the 1978 Act. Although I sympathise with the purpose behind what the hon. Member for Caithness and Sutherland (Mr. Maclennan) said, his point has no validity. In the light of the arguments, uncertainties and confusions, it would be wrong of the Government...

Clause 1: Treaty on European Union (5 May 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: I am not one of those who believe that a great deal turns on the protocol or the social agreement. Anyone who reads the protocol and the social agreement will have to concede that the terms are astonishingly vague and general. It is hard to see that they achieve anything that is not equally well achieved elsewhere in the treaty of Rome and other provisions. The lie to the contrary argument...

Clause 1: Treaty on European Union (5 May 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: My hon. Friend makes a further persuasive point on the side of the argument that there must have been a purpose in incorporating the provision—or attempting to—in the first place, so failing to incorporate it must have some legal consequence. Let us return to my personal view—it is the best that I can arrive at—which is that the Attorney-General, on balance, would be the favourite to...

Clause 1: Treaty on European Union (5 May 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: The fact that the Foreign Office legal advisers and the Attorney-General's legal advisers reached diametrically opposite conclusions makes the point, which is surely apparent to everybody and which perhaps I am somewhat labouring, that no one can be certain. As my hon. Friend suggested, I happen to know the Foreign Office chief legal adviser, Mr. Frank Berman, who is an excellent lawyer. I...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: I am glad that new clause 49 has been selected for debate and Division. That assures us that the Committee will at least have the opportunity to vote on this important issue—a chance which was in doubt for some time. Many of those present have spent long hours in the Committee debating the important issues surrounding the treaty of Maastricht, not just because we wish to inform ourselves...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: The Foreign Secretary may have spoken in his intervention for longer than I have managed in my speech. I was prepared to let him go on because it was interesting and heartening to have what I took to be his assurance that a vote on this central issue will not be conducted after 10 pm. Notwithstanding the length of his earlier intervention, I invite the Foreign Secretary to rise again to give...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: The Foreign Secretary concedes immediately my point that these matters are being debated and decided late at night when virtually no one, with one or two honourable exceptions, is present in the Press Gallery. Following the painful admission that we have not succeeded in getting these issues into the public domain, let me say something more hopeful. Despite that, somehow, in a way which...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is exactly right. If the Committee supports the new clause, I hope that it will support the amendment, because that would meet the stated objectives of my Front-Bench spokesmen.

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: I entirely agree with my hon. Friend's powerful point. It simply confirms what many of us have argued on many occasions—that decisions taken even seven, nine or 12 months ago simply cannot be said to hold for ever. That is certainly true of the decisions taken in the Labour movement. I invite hon. Members to consider another expression of public opinion. I doubt whether there is a single...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: The hon. Gentleman is right. In addition to events on 16 September, there was also the Danish referendum on, I think, 6 June. Many events in the past year or so have demonstrated that the Maastricht treaty is a document from another age, that it was drawn up for a quite different Europe and that it was the concept, the brain-child, of an elitist group of politicians who had their own...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: I am glad to have that piece of intelligence as well, but I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will forgive me if I rate it slightly lower in order of importance than the decision by the Scottish TUC. What sort of resistance is put up by those who oppose a referendum to the popular pressure that is now manifesting itself? What arguments are used by these upholders of our constitution and our...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: Perhaps not tacitly. Perhaps my hon. Friend objects to that word. I thought—I could have sworn—that I had heard in the House, in the Committee and in the parliamentary Labour party repeated statements from the leaders of my party that they would do nothing to frustrate the passage of the Bill. I have not so far used the word conspiracy and I understand why my right hon. and hon. Friends...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: My hon. Friend may be unduly sensitive. It seems that his intervention does nothing more than confirm my argument. Indeed, he goes further and rightly says that the position taken by those on the Opposition Front Bench is explicit and not tacit. The two Front Benches, deliberately or consciously, find themselves acting in concert. That is relevant to the argument that it is unnecessary or...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: I am sure that my right hon. and hon. Friends on the Opposition Front Bench have managed to convey that impression. It is remarkable, however, that when there are Divisions that matter, even on Labour amendments, we, the Opposition, fail to embarrass the Government by defeating them and preventing them from ratifying the treaty.

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his intervention. He has the position bang to rights. I do not want to offend the Liberals because I gather that they support new clause 49—well, I hope that that is the case. The Liberals, however, also have their disreputable role to play, as do some other minority parties, in frustrating the ability of Parliament to deal properly with the issues that...

Orders of the Day — European Communities (Amendment) Bill: Considered in Committee [Progress, 19 April] (21 Apr 1993)

Mr Bryan Gould: I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, particularly for his support in regard to the referendum. I only hope that he will be able to put into practice his principles on the first point that he made. That test may well come at 10 pm; we shall watch carefully. At the heart of the argument of those who oppose a referendum—I mean the serious argument; the rest has been marginal—is the...


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