Results 1–20 of 101 for speaker:Mr Ernest Gray

Motion for Adjournment. (4 Aug 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: In the course of a very few moments, I desire to support the appeal made to the President of the Board of Education to suspend the operation of this circular, at least until the Autumn Session, and until we have a conference of local education authorities upon the subject. The answer given by the right hon. Gentleman is quite insufficient to meet the case which has been made out against this...

Orders of the Day — ALLOTMENTS BILL [Lords].: Clause 19. — (Action in default of certain local authorities.) (28 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I wish to join in the protest against the principle which is expressed in Clause 19 and extended by this Amendment. I venture to think that my right hon. Friend is wrong in saying that the London County Council was omitted from the earlier Statute by oversight. I suggest that it was deliberately omitted, because it was then recognized—as it ought to be recognised now—that no need existed...

Orders of the Day — ALLOTMENTS BILL [Lords].: Clause 19. — (Action in default of certain local authorities.) (28 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I have not suggested anything of the sort. All I say is the matter should be left where it is. The London County Council is already exempt.

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: It is quite in accordance with precedence that the Chancellor of the Exchequer should take charge of the Bill at this stage, for truly this is not an educational Measure but a Super-tax Measure, and I noticed that quite by inadvertence the right hon. Gentleman used the word "tax." I join issue with him at once. I believe that he misunderstands entirely the attitude of the House when the...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: That is a frank admission. The charges which are falling upon the State in respect of superannuation are being met from the general account. This particular item in the general account, this £2,300,000 out of the total of about £45,000,000, has not yet been infringed upon, but it might be during the course of the year, and if it were then would be the time for the Supplementary Estimates.

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: My right hon. Friend says that the teachers had full warning that they would be called on to pay a contribution. No one has ever denied that. If he will forgive me 'or saying so I thought the whole of that portion of his argument entirely irrelevant. What is of importance is the fact that when the Government introduced this Bill they made a blunder in making it retrospective, of which no one...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: That is a matter for another House of Commons and another Chancellor of the Exchequer to deal with, for that will be in 1924, after the General Election. The right hon. Gentleman has not answered my argument, namely, that inasmuch as his contributions are founded upon rising scales of salaries, the amount which will come in in July, 1924, is greater than the amount which will come in in June,...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: While I warmly appreciate the object which my right hon. Friend has in view in moving this Amendment, I want to put this point, if I may, to him. He is providing here that the teacher who is receiving sick pay at a less amount than his normal pay, shall pay the contribution upon the amount actually received. So far, so good. But the right hon. Gentleman has a further Amendment upon the Paper...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I am afraid I do not quite follow that at the moment. I hope that it may be so. I gather from my right hon. Friend's intervention, that he would be prepared to accept my proposition, namely, that the teacher who is only receiving half-pay should be altogether exempt from contribution. Am I to understand that?

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: May I be allowed to say that, unfortunately, this is our last opportunity of revising the phraseology of the Bill? If we were on the Committee stage, and could look forward to the Report stage, I should not be greatly disturbed. I merely rise to ask whether, if it he found that this point is not properly covered, the Minister will make an effort in another place to get the necessary...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I am not proposing to pursue a long argument, but there has been a sort of general conversation arising out of the interruption of the right hon. Gentleman, and all that I want to point out is that this word "salary" will be interpreted by the local authority as the fixed salary for the year. A teacher with a salary of £500 a year, say, might be absent for three months on full pay, and then...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I cannot bring against my right hon. Friend the charge of reversing the decision of the Committee here, as I did with regard to the first Amendment, because I frankly admit that he was a little smarter than we were on that occasion. We got his Clause amended, and then neglected to get the Amendment added to the Bill. He brought up a few friends the next morning—nothing very much to boast...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 1. — (Contributions by teachers.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I beg to move, in Subsection (1), after the words last inserted, to add the words Provided further that no contribution shall be required from a teacher who, before the passing of this Act, has given notice to his employers, in accordance with the terms of his contract of service, of his intention to retire from the teaching service in order to accept the benefits of the School Teachers...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 2. — (Repayment of contributions in certain, cases.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I beg to move, in Subsection (1), after the word "Act" ["that Act or"], to insert the words or if he has satisfied the Board that by reason of illness or physical defect consequent on War service he has been disqualified for a death gratuity under the principal Act. I hope to have better fortune with this Amendment than with the last, as it -will appeal to a wider circle. Under Clause 2 if a...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 2. — (Repayment of contributions in certain, cases.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I beg to move, at the end of Sub-section (4), to insert the words All contributions returned under this Section shall be treated as a capital payment for the purposes of Income Tax. The point which I am raising here is of more immediate interess to the local authorities who have to collect the contributions and the Income Tax than to the teachers. The Inland Revenue authorities treat the...

Orders of the Day — School Teachers (Superannuation) Bill.: Clause 2. — (Repayment of contributions in certain, cases.) (19 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I accept your ruling at once, and ask leave to withdraw the Amendment.

Orders of the Day — Economy (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill. (10 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: This Measure might be met with passionate denunciation or treated with that ridicule which tends to kill. I wish to avoid both. At the outset I want to make an appeal to the Government. The condition of these benches at the moment in now way represents the importance of this Measure. But that is not surprising. I will guarantee that four-fifths of the House of Commons have not seen the inside...

Orders of the Day — Economy (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill. (10 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: The right hon. Gentleman says that the London County Council is working under a ration this year. Can he state the amount of that ration? Can he state whether there exists anywhere, in his office or outside it, any statement of the amount which local authorities will receive during 1922–23 for the purposes of education?

Orders of the Day — Economy (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill. (10 Jul 1922)

Mr Ernest Gray: I hope the right hon. Gentleman will excuse me for interrupting him, but this is very important for all engaged in educational work outside. He tells us that the amount for the country as a whole will be £13,000,000 for higher education, but he does not give us the least idea what the amount will be for elementary or technical education.


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