Mr John Kelly: Will the Member give way?
Mr John Kelly: On a point of order, Mr Speaker. Is it not a fact that the police were not in possession of a warrant when they entered the Building?
Mr John Kelly: On a point of order, Mr Speaker —
Mr John Kelly: Is it in order for the Minister to discuss matters that are sub judice?
Mr John Kelly: On a point of order, Mr Speaker. Is this debate about Hugh Orde or is it about the motion?
Mr John Kelly: Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. I do not want to rehash the unseemly political wrangle that occurred during the debate about services for the Royal Victoria Hospital and Belfast City Hospital, which led to a judicial review after the Minister had made her decision. The underlying theme of the debate should be care for the mother and the child. It should focus on care of pregnant...
Mr John Kelly: Perhaps I should have said "east of Belfast", but Mick Murphy was whispering in my ear and that might have put Downpatrick into my mind. East of Belfast and west of the Bann, I was urging the Minister to provide women with greater choice, and the two pilot stand-alone midwifery-led units will do that and get away from the controversy between the Royal Victoria Hospital and Belfast City...
Mr John Kelly: Will the Member give way?
Mr John Kelly: Does the Member agree that the appointment of a chief fire officer in the other part of Ireland was conducted in conformity with the Regulations that apply there and that the Regulations that apply here would prohibit someone who did not have the equivalent qualification — in other words, the training that is required in the Fire Brigade in Britain or elsewhere?
Mr John Kelly: What changes should be made?
Mr John Kelly: Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann Comhairle. In proposing the motion, Assembly Member Berry talked about politicisation and mentioned the Minister and Sinn Féin/IRA, yet the entire thrust of his address was to politicise the Fire Service in this part of Ireland. The motion is not about the competence of the Fire Service. As other Members have said, no one has in any way attempted to...
Mr John Kelly: The Member said it in his speech. Apart from anything else — [Interruption].
Mr John Kelly: Clarification will wait for another day. We can only go on what we hear and what we are told. We have spoken to firemen about what they are about. We have explained to the Fire Brigades Union the content, impact and import of the amendment. The entire objective of the motion seems to be to prohibit and confine; to create a closed shop in the North of Ireland Fire Service where no one outside...
Mr John Kelly: On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Does that include donkeys or just horses?
Mr John Kelly: Go raibh maith agat, a Cheann Comhairle. Since you are the first and final arbiter of what happens in the House, were you presented with a search warrant, or was a warrant proffered to you, on the morning of this search, and if not, why not? Did any member of your staff accompany those people who searched the Sinn Féin support offices on Friday morning? Was any member of your staff present...
Mr John Kelly: Further to that point of order, a Cheann Comhairle. Was a search warrant —
Mr John Kelly: 7. asked the Minister for Social Development to detail, for each of the last 4 years, the grant aid awarded to housing associations for the provision of social housing. (AQO 218/02)
Mr John Kelly: Notwithstanding the pivotal role that housing associations play in providing social housing, does the Minister agree that the massive increase of around 58% in the building costs of housing associations needs to be examined? Is there a connection between that and the amount of private finance initiative money that they are getting?
Mr John Kelly: 10. asked the Minister for Employment and Learning how much funding was allocated in the switch from ACE to Worktrack; and to make a statement on any improvement in efficiency. (AQO 224/02)
Mr John Kelly: Does the Minister agree that the work done by ACE is not being reflected in Worktrack? Indeed, there may be confusion about the transition from ACE to Worktrack. The systems that people were accustomed to in ACE do not seem to be reflected in Worktrack.