Results 61–80 of 283 for speaker:Lord Grenfell

European Union Bill — Report (3rd Day) (15 Jun 2011)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, after so many Second Reading speeches at a Report stage, it may well be sunset before we reach a decision on this amendment. I have only one thing to say following the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Lamont. My experience in this place has been that your Lordships' House has always been quite reluctant to call for sunset clauses-we do not do so lightly. They are a very important...

European Union Bill: Report (2nd Day) (13 Jun 2011)

Lord Grenfell: Before the noble Lord sits down, he appeared to suggest that there were a large number of red lines which the Labour Government had introduced and that these were now under threat. The fact is that there were, I think, six red lines in the Lisbon treaty. Every one of them is now enshrined in the two treaties as amended by the Lisbon treaty, so one should not cry wolf where that is not appropriate.

European Union Bill: Committee (8th Day) (25 May 2011)

Lord Grenfell: I support Amendments 61 to 63. I am sorry that the noble and learned Lord, Lord Howe, feels that he must now dissociate himself from Amendment 62, because the olive branch on which the amendment perches is very appropriate and could lead us out of a difficult situation. I think that Schedule 1 is an abomination, and I always have done, and wish that it was not in the Bill. To pretend that...

European Union Bill — Committee (6th Day) (17 May 2011)

Lord Grenfell: Before my very good friend the Minister sits down, perhaps I may put one very quick question to him of a practical nature. He mentioned that we were not the only country in the European Union that had referendum locks. Does he agree that it would be very helpful to the House if, when we get to Report, he could provide us with the list of countries and how many referendum locks that they have....

European Union Bill — Committee (6th Day) (17 May 2011)

Lord Grenfell: I apologise for intervening at this point, but I think we have strayed rather far in the latter remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Stoddart. I go back to the position taken by the noble Lord, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, and his supporters, on a referendum on what we are required to pay into the European Union. I understand their principle to be that if the British taxpayers are to provide this...

European Union Bill — Committee (6th Day) (17 May 2011)

Lord Grenfell: Perhaps we could finish on that point. It would be very interesting, if we made just a little more publicity about the value that we derive from the assessments that we pay to many international institutions. The noble Lord has talked about the importance of trade. If we were not paying our way with many of the international institutions that are enabling developing countries to develop their...

European Union Bill — Committee (3rd Day) (Continued) (3 May 2011)

Lord Grenfell: I hesitate to intervene at this late hour but what the noble Lord, Lord Lamont, has just said provokes me to do so. He has, maybe inadvertently, hit the nail on the head. This Bill is about trying to prevent the European Union acquiring more powers in ways that the Government feel would be wrong. The noble Lord spoke about the difference between powers and agreement. In fact, the effect of...

European Union Bill: Committee (2nd Day) (Continued) (26 Apr 2011)

Lord Grenfell: I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. However, he has not quite grasped the purpose of the European Union Select Committee. The purpose is not to advise the European Union but to advise the Government. If, in their sovereignty, the Government choose not to accept our advice, there is nothing that we can do about it. However, I do not think you can say that we are not performing...

European Union Bill: Committee (2nd Day) (26 Apr 2011)

Lord Grenfell: The noble Lord, Lord Kerr, applied the test of common sense to the relationship between Clauses 2 and 3. Sometimes I wonder about the common sense on the other side of the House as I do not hear much of it in this debate. He concluded his remarks with a devastating argument against the inclusion of Clause 3 on the grounds that it is simply not necessary, and that with the amendments to Clause...

European Union Bill — Committee (1st Day) (Continued) (5 Apr 2011)

Lord Grenfell: I apologise for not hearing all the introduction of the noble Lord, Lord Williamson. I was searching for Sir Patrick Nairne's commission's report on referendums issued 15 years ago. I found what I wanted; it is on the subject of thresholds. He said: "The main difficulty in specifying a threshold lies in determining what figure is sufficient to confer legitimacy e.g. 60%, 65% or 75%". Forty...

European Union Bill — Committee (1st Day) (5 Apr 2011)

Lord Grenfell: I thank the noble Lord for giving way. Could we please try to get this straight once and for all? The constitution prepared by the EU Constitutional Convention was meant to be a constitution. The Lisbon treaty was in fact a series of amendments to two existing treaties, and the novelty of this was that when it was ratified, the Lisbon treaty disappeared into thin air and did not exist any...

European Union Bill — Committee (1st Day) (5 Apr 2011)

Lord Grenfell: The noble Lord keeps referring to removing powers. Would he not accept that there is a principle of pooling powers, which is very different? It means that we share authority so that we can find results for the common good of Europe. Of course, when you pool powers you are not simply saying, "I give up all authority"; you are saying, "Together we will use our individual powers to find a means...

European Union Bill — Committee (1st Day) (5 Apr 2011)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, the noble Lord said that the European Union Committee has never made any difference-I declare an interest as I was its chairman for some years. Perhaps I may quote to him one fact. Many years ago, when Mario Monti, the Commissioner, set about a big review of the competition regulation, we got off the mark very quickly. We got hold of the green paper and did an extensive inquiry into...

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill: Committee (12th Day) (24 Jan 2011)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, I have not taken part in the debates on the many amendments that have been before us because, to be honest, I have not wanted to contribute to the length of the proceedings. I have listened carefully to what the noble Baronesses, Lady D'Souza and Lady Williams of Crosby, have said. However, I have to reject the accusation of filibustering. The House must understand the frustration...

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill: Committee (11th Day) (Continued) (19 Jan 2011)

Lord Grenfell: I seem to remember that just before the general election, at about one in the morning, we had a very interesting debate on this question. I regret greatly that the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, is not in his place, because we rehearsed all of this before and he had some very interesting statistics. It might be worth going back and looking at Hansard to see what he said and what the responses were.

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill: Committee (3rd Day) (8 Dec 2010)

Lord Grenfell: I wish to express my support for the amendment of my noble friend, Lord Snape. This may be an esoteric point but reference has been made to elections in other parts of Europe. Over the years, I have witnessed many elections in France and it is not just tradition that demands that they be held at a weekend; there are also some practical reasons and I shall cite just one. It may sound a little...

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill: Committee (2nd Day) (6 Dec 2010)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, may I have the temerity to point out to the noble Lord, Lord Rennard, who correctly told us when it was last discussed, that a lot of us here, and, indeed, in the country, were not around at that time?

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill: Committee (2nd Day) (6 Dec 2010)

Lord Grenfell: I thank the noble Lord for giving way. Has there been a change of heart in the Electoral Commission in this case? How recent is the evidence it has now given that in fact it is happy with the progress made on this? What happens if, in the weeks to come, it is no longer happy? Will there then be a case for the Government to change their mind about the date?

House of Lords Reform Bill [HL]: Second Reading (3 Dec 2010)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords, we have heard two remarkable maiden speeches from Peers who will clearly be enormous assets to this House. I wonder whether we would have had that benefit if this had been an all-elected House. I rather doubt it. This is one of the great strengths of the House we have. If I may say so, the news of the conversion of the noble Lord, Lord Hennessy, was not just music to my ears but a...

IMF and World Bank: Appointment Procedures — Question (1 Dec 2010)

Lord Grenfell: My Lords-


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